Do P51s breed sucky pilots??

[Debrody]

Fugi, noone is expecting a pony to turn with a spit. But at least, they could turn with a Dora, to be honest, instead of the instant running.

[The Fugitive]

Fugi, noone is expecting a pony to turn with a spit. But at least, they could turn with a Dora, to be honest, instead of the instant running.

oh I agree, I'll turn with a P40 on the deck in a pony, ask Ace8  , but then again, I'm only here for the fight. But the OP asked about ponies creating sucky pilots. I think sucky pilots are the majority of pony pilots for the reasons stated in my other post. The ones who stick with the pony are some of the best pony pilots in the game and will turn, even with spits and such.

As to why we have so many sucky pilots who won't turn with a Dora.... well thats a whole different subject 

[mechanic]

I rather enjoyed it in the last scenario.

Beat me to it!

That makes three of us.

That was a totaly badass scenario.

[Strollin]

I must agree with Redbull. A low n slow P51 will soon experience what is known as the "seagull effect" (mine! mine! mine!)

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Pervert, its because of the same reason why you cant see a decent Dora stick from the hundreds you meet every day.

You don't get to see the good stick. You're dead before it happens. 

[Pand]

and will turn, even with spits and such.

I'll turn/outturn most aircraft at cornering speed in a 51B... but once you've continued the turn and exceeded that threshold, you become a considerably easy target.  While it takes on average 3-5 snapshot busts to down most luftwaffe aircraft in a Bravo, it usually only takes them half of one to quickly turn you in to a 'sucky pilot'.

[Strollin]

+1 pand

[BaldEagl]

Like every plane there's been a handfull of really good P-51D pilots over the years.  Evidently you've just never run into them.

[R 105]

 I do a lot of ords porking so the P-51D is the plane for me. I can go to a large field and kill all 4 ords and fly home even if there are other planes in the air defending. I am almost aways alone at the time so I do not engage in dog fights plus may frame frame is so low I never know if the plane I fire at is even still there when I shoot.

 So I spend my time porking enemy baes & re suppling ours. The P-51D is a great plane, It shot down MiG-15s in Korea and was still in use in the 67 Israeli war and was in service in other countries until the late 1980s. There is a reason for that it was the best all around piston engine fighter ever produced and only the ME-109 can claim near the same service life. (Spain into the 70s)

[Tumor]

"The P-51 can't do what a Spitfire can do, but it can do it over Berlin".--Some famous guy from WWII, Yeager I think.  Anyway, that should clear it up.

[Strollin]

+1 some old famous dude.

[Rob52240]

As far as I know, just Pand.

The P-51 does seem to help with excellent map drawring skills though so it cancels out.

[Vinkman]

It doesn't turn well when slow (full flaps), or roll well, also if you just disengaged from a fight and won, it's not like our K4 or D9, it is a heavy mofo and it feels like it takes ages to accelerate, also there's not much of a reward for anyone who would push/fly a P51(assuming you mean mostly D's) to its limits. 5 ENY, even your dora is 15, we make some perks when we win fights

Not that perks are really any incentive what so ever, just a thought.

Anyway that's how the 51D felt the times I've flown it. Also if someone sees a super slow pony just out of a turn fight, it's like seeing a low mossie, everyone wants the runstang/easy perks (or that's what I think   )

There are however a few good pony pilots, ran into DirtDevl earlier, he was damn good, BigR comes to mind as well. Other than that though, you're right, not too many good pony pilots.

This  

But will add that I agree with OP. When I fly and Pony, there is a sense of stupidity that overwhelms me when I stall fight it, as if the plane, and the community are telling me "Moron, that's not how you're supposed to fly this plane". When a plane is so good at a certain type of mission, you feel compelled as a student of the game to learn to fly planes to their strengths. This creates competing egos in your brain. One wants to be smart (everyone like being smart) and one wants to be the best fighter jock on the block. I think to be the best fighter jock on the block, you have to conquer the fear of looking stupid. Because in the end, if you can't dog fight a Pony and beat all comers, you can never really claim top jock status. Which bring us to a second revelation...if you ignore your fear of looking stupid and master the pony as a stall fighter, all those victories will never look stupid.  

[Debrody]

You don't get to see the good stick. You're dead before it happens. 

Nope, the real good sticks are known to be visible for a long time, from a close distance before they kill me. Unless you call the afk hunters good sticks.
Pony vs 190 can be so much fun even if i lose.

[Latrobe]

This  

But will add that I agree with OP. When I fly and Pony, there is a sense of stupidity that overwhelms me when I stall fight it, as if the plane, and the community are telling me "Moron, that's not how you're supposed to fly this plane". When a plane is so good at a certain type of mission, you feel compelled as a student of the game to learn to fly planes to their strengths. This creates competing egos in your brain. One wants to be smart (everyone like being smart) and one wants to be the best fighter jock on the block. I think to be the best fighter jock on the block, you have to conquer the fear of looking stupid. Because in the end, if you can't dog fight a Pony and beat all comers, you can never really claim top jock status. Which bring us to a second revelation...if you ignore your fear of looking stupid and master the pony as a stall fighter, all those victories will never look stupid.  

I enjoy flying planes to their weaknesses and trying to figure out how to still win the fight. Get low and slow, fight 2 or 3 at once, do things with the plane that it's not really suppose to do. I've really learned just how far you can push the limits of some planes by doing this, and when I do fly it to it's strengths it almost seems like easy mode no matter what plane it is. Plus, it's so satisfying to turn fight a zeke or brew with a K4 and win. 

Maybe this is why I die a lot.