New HE round

[Chalenge]

Bangsbox. . . I almost hate to reveal this to you. HE is more effective if it hits near the target rather than hits the target. Delayed fusing with an HE round just below the surface would be more effective yet. That is by design.

[bangsbox]

HE round that go off in the ground, expels most of their energy in to the ground...that's just science. So how would it be more effective? That russian 152assult gun killed tigers with direct hits with HE not near misses. And that's a 152mm gun. What is a 75mm Sherman round that goes off buried in the dirt going to do. Also if it was not historically used for the role u want it to fill why should AH waste development time on it?

[Chalenge]

It does not require development time. We already have HE. HE is most effective because of the shock wave it forms and not because of impact. That is where your concept of physics breaks down. The only effect HE has on direct impact is due to spalling which if you delayed fusing by 0.05 seconds would also increase spalling (potentially) because the round has begun to mushroom and spread out upon the surface. So when the charge is finally ignited and due to the larger spread the compression shock wave is better transmitted through the surface material. Where the compression and tension waves intersect the interior metal fragments. The delay would have to be changed depending upon the armor you encounter and actually I think this much has already been taken into account and always assumed to be properly set (without user intervention) but owing to the shape of most armor surfaces it is more normal to see ricochets than it is to see impact point detonation.

HE absolutely was used as I described and more effectively in the Panther when they chose to use HE. The APC-HE I mentioned was only one example.

[bangsbox]

I think your describing a "hesh" round and this was not used in tanks during ww2.
Also do u have any sources for panthers(or any tank) using HE in the "mine field" manner you describe and want this delayed HE for.

Also my science is fine. If an HE round buried in the ground explodes then its energy (shock wave) will be mostly absorbed by the ground. Thus having less  effectiveness on targets above the ground.

Little experiment for you. Hold a firecracker in an open palm vs bury it in dirt and place your hand near it.
See what hurts more.

[Tank-Ace]

If you can't fine tune your aim to hit a moving tank, you won't be able to fine-tune your aim so that the HE shell bursts under the tank. And unless it does that, its no more effective than our current HE shells.

[Chalenge]

See rule #4

[bangsbox]

See rule #4

even if its at the tail (which i considered; and has no bearing ) my science beats your understanding of SKYence.... dirt is a shock absorb-er..water is the best shock carrier.  

[Tank-Ace]

See rule #4

[phatzo]

 

[Chalenge]

See rule #4

[Tank-Ace]

See rule #4

[phatzo]

This thread is hilarious. Read the OP again and google the terms you don't understand.

[Chalenge]

It wont do him any good. I mean he took what someone said and swallowed it wholesale. I dont know why I keep trying to explain things to him. I guess squelching the kid really was the only answer.

[Ack-Ack]

Now once again, are you asking for time-fuzed HE shells, as in the shell will burst after a set time after firing?

Chalenge is asking for a delayed fusing option for HE rounds, meaning after XX amount of time after the round impacts it will explode not after XX amount of time the round will explode after firing.  For example, having a HE round explode .0005 seconds after impact.

ack-ack

[bangsbox]

I know he wants dirt bombs/ blow up after round hits tank, not air burst round... I don't see why this is worth spending htc time on compared to additions/upgrades