One LW tour with HO turned off

[RotBaron]

Just one tour and see what the results and response is. Of course in this tour there would be exceptions, like fighters could still HO bombers vice versa and a 410 and the like could still HO those unwise enough to go HO with them.

I know we'd see some guys scores plummet. 

It's very frustrating to climb to alt, prepare for a dog fight, get boxed into having no choice but to merge similar alt with a comparable fighter and get shot in the face. In said circumstances if I turn/dive I give up my position, tactic and/or energy. 

    

Or better yet make the HO killshoot the HO'er. 

If the result is one of welcome, how about an MA where HO's as described are off?

 

Rot



 

[Gryffin]

Absolutely not.

If you are getting shot in the face it is ENTIRELY your own fault. Stop flying right at other people.

Do a search for "lead turn". With a proper lead turn you will be hoping that people go for a head on shot.

[bc21]

HO them first!! 

[RotBaron]

Absolutely not.

If you are getting shot in the face it is ENTIRELY your own fault. Stop flying right at other people.

Do a search for "lead turn". With a proper lead turn you will be hoping that people go for a head on shot.

I'll search that, but you missed this part - "get boxed into having no choice but to merge similar alt with a comparable fighter and get shot in the face"   
                -that is boxed in by his friendlies.

[RotBaron]

HO them first!! 

I'm trying to learn to dogfight. Anybody can HO and I see it as pointless and a waste of time.

[bc21]

I'm trying to learn to dogfight. Anybody can HO and I see it as pointless and a waste of time.

Read up some on WWII it was a valid and often used tatic.

[RotBaron]

One tour Griff? That's too much to ask. I must ask then, what is it about the HO that has you vehemently defending not allowing even just one tour where they are off???

[RotBaron]

Read up some on WWII it was a valid and often used tatic.

I'm well aware of that it was used, "often," I beg to differ.

[Karnak]

Explain how the computer can tell what a HO is and is not.

I have shot enemy aircraft at a 90 degree angle and been accused of HOing.

[RotBaron]

Explain how the computer can tell what a HO is and is not.

I have shot enemy aircraft at a 90 degree angle and been accused of HOing.

Then that accuser is clueless. I'm not a programmer/coder, but I do believe it has been said that HOs were off in AW, can anyone verify that?  Really with everything else that is modeled in this game requiring advanced physics and geometry, this should be a cinch.

GTG will check back later.

 

[Ack-Ack]

I'm well aware of that it was used, "often," I beg to differ.

Beg to differ all you want it was a common tactic used by all sides.  A large number of Richard Bong's kills were a result of him using head on attacks.

ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

Then that accuser is clueless. I'm not a programmer/coder, but I do believe it has been said that HOs were off in AW, can anyone verify that?  Really with everything else that is modeled in this game requiring advanced physics and geometry, this should be a cinch.

GTG will check back later.

 

Head on shots were possible in AW, planes with nose mounted guns wer even given a bonus modifier to score head on hits.

ack-ack

[The Fugitive]

I'll search that, but you missed this part - "get boxed into having no choice but to merge similar alt with a comparable fighter and get shot in the face"   
                -that is boxed in by his friendlies.

There is always something you can do. A simple ailiron roll will throw of most chances at them hitting you. Add some rudder and now your sliding around in their site forcing them to kick rudder and roll to get rounds on you.

I too hate HOs, unfortunately it's the ONLY way some can play this game. They have no skill at maneuvering for a shot other than driving strait at your nose.

Read up some on WWII it was a valid and often used tatic.

The most often used answer by those who spend most of their time HOing 

[Debrody]

HOing is wrong, but it can be avoided.
Leave the stupid HOers alone, rather ask your friends to teach you in a private place. You will not learn how to dogfight by only flying in the MA: the real good fights are pretty rare there.

For AKAK: yes, it was used. Do you know the real Debrody's story? He and his wingman were jumped by Jaks and Las in early November, '44. He got an La5 but ended up hoing with a Jak3. Of course the G6's 30mm gun blew the Jak up instantly but he got a 20mm round into his stomach too. Took him 6 months til he could walk again. Im pretty damn sure he would have never ever tryed to HO again...

[MrKrabs]

First, it is possible to disable HOing if the flight models were given a proximity cone into which if a another models attempts to fire within that cone it would be disables...

Second, take advantage of their HOing, you get to start your maneuvering to fight the HOing enemy

Third: -50,000 to the wish