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Offline bangsbox

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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2013, 11:10:24 AM »
I would think the whole sloped plate of a panther counts as the same spot. I hate when people use sups for no real reason.

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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2013, 11:25:02 AM »
I found it, but my lips are sealed.    :D

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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2013, 11:35:46 AM »
I would think the whole sloped plate of a panther counts as the same spot. I hate when people use sups for no real reason.

That's what I would expect, considering how the planes work.  It would probably be a real bear to test because getting exactly the same angle every time would be tricky.  I was just wondering if it was a somewhat common knowledge thing among tankers.

The way I think it works is, no penetration=no damage at all, so theoretically you could sit there all day.  Additionally, it would seem to me if it takes more than one penetrating round to kill the tank, you could damage it once, then bounce rounds off it again all day from the wrong angle with no additional effect.

The reason it interests me is, every single other game I've ever seen you chip away at armor, then you kill the squishy thing inside.  I just find it an interesting difference if it works the way I think it does, and I think it might explain a lot of things people complain about.

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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2013, 01:55:00 PM »

The way I think it works is, no penetration=no damage at all

Correct.
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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2013, 03:35:26 PM »

The way I think it works is, no penetration=no damage at all,

Hey, NO still means NO.

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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2013, 03:36:43 PM »
Thanks for the films.  I reviewed them and all the hits were legit and not the result of a bug.  Your side shot into the Tiger achieved penetration because the side armor on the lower hull is thinner than the side armor on the superstructure.  You can see this in the armor chart in the hangar.  Normally this shot first hits the treads which doesn't leave enough energy for the 37mm to continue through to penetrate the side armor.  Your shot was able to sneak through the space between the treads and the superstructure putting all the energy straight into the lower side armor with no obliquity.

On the Achilles's heel of the Tiger, take a look at this drawing.  The "heel" at which you shot is a small but potentially vulnerable target if you don't have enough penetration to get through the rear armor.


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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2013, 03:51:27 AM »
And how the #¤&&#%&!# caramba should supplies fix that armour ? one of the most gamey things I've heard in this game, if this is true.

Planes needs to re-plane to fix their damage in AH like RL. In battlefield-repair except for tracks is almost impossible on a tank, and should be so in AH too.




But the odds of a person hitting the exact same spot is slim and none especially if the ranges are longer.  I for one do not panic once I've taken a hit and it is deflected, some players start begging like a little girl in a doll shop for someone to bring them gv supplies to "fix" their armor.


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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2013, 04:51:54 AM »
Airplanes supplies, dropped within range of damaged ac so they can get back to land kills... drop fuel, or supps...  sounds good to me!  :aok

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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2013, 06:37:07 AM »
Thanks for the films.  I reviewed them and all the hits were legit and not the result of a bug.  Your side shot into the Tiger achieved penetration because the side armor on the lower hull is thinner than the side armor on the superstructure.  You can see this in the armor chart in the hangar.  Normally this shot first hits the treads which doesn't leave enough energy for the 37mm to continue through to penetrate the side armor.  Your shot was able to sneak through the space between the treads and the superstructure putting all the energy straight into the lower side armor with no obliquity.

On the Achilles's heel of the Tiger, take a look at this drawing.  The "heel" at which you shot is a small but potentially vulnerable target if you don't have enough penetration to get through the rear armor.

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Surprising to say the least but that does explain it. Although I'd never believe a Tiger of all things could be penetrated by 37mm from the side.
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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2013, 09:02:57 AM »
As promised, here's a video of hitting the achilles heel of the Tiger for those interested:

 http://youtu.be/eub28U08nK0
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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2013, 10:01:03 AM »
As promised, here's a video of hitting the achilles heel of the Tiger for those interested:

 http://youtu.be/eub28U08nK0


Not very useful for me MrRiplEy. Do you realise how low I'd have to fly to get that shot!  :old:

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Re: GV Armor quiz
« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2013, 10:34:16 AM »
Yep, that's the spot, killed tiger with M8    muahahaha     :D