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Offline uptown

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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2013, 09:03:32 PM »

Two main reasons:

First, by removing the need to model the tank interior, the amount of work needed for new additions was reduced (=more output)
Second, the new control system made tanking much more accessible especially to new players. The WASD control is a universal convention for (almost?) decades now, and also think about how many gamers that stumble across Aces High do have a joystick at all?
Now they can at least jump into a GV and drive. In some way you can almost say the controls were 'broke' before.

And while I personally would have loved HTC moving inot the opposite direction (more interior modeling, more 'fidelity' and options) - these GV changes were a big success. GV usage went right up.


And that's why

will never happen.
ahh ty sir. I do seem to remember you saying in the past that GV usage went up substantially after the changes. I do have to admit that I don't even notice the different anymore.
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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2013, 10:45:56 PM »
I do wish the commanders view had some sort of targeting aid. Not a full range scale or anything, just a center dot amidst the circle would be adequate. For those last minute 'shit theres a panzer behind this hill right next to me moments'.

I know the pros don't need it or I could always put that in with a simple marker point on my monitor.
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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2013, 07:31:51 AM »
Titanic if you had half a brain I might be concerned that your analysis was simply misguided, but instead I'm laughing at you for taking yourself serious at all. You are completely unable to broker any type of realistic analysis, and your opinion is nothing more than a whine that anyone might disagree with you.

Now hush and go take your meds.
and YOU! Go sit on the concrete in your Tiger2 and defend those maprooms!  I suppose the tank gets better mileage that way.....(which brings to mind, a modification......most tanks didn't traverse very fast with engine off?)
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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2013, 08:08:01 AM »

Two main reasons:

First, by removing the need to model the tank interior, the amount of work needed for new additions was reduced (=more output)
Second, the new control system made tanking much more accessible especially to new players. The WASD control is a universal convention for (almost?) decades now, and also think about how many gamers that stumble across Aces High do have a joystick at all?
Now they can at least jump into a GV and drive. In some way you can almost say the controls were 'broke' before.

And while I personally would have loved HTC moving into the opposite direction (more interior modeling, more 'fidelity' and options) - these GV changes were a big success. GV usage went right up.


And that's why

will never happen.

I don't care what anyone one says that new transmission messed up the GVs. I can't sneak forward take off fast or clime any sizable hills. It is not my fault a growing number of knot heads can't operate a standard transmission.

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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2013, 08:52:33 AM »
i really like the tank portion of this game! does it have some flaw's? yes. so what, its still fun. i find I'm better in a tank then in a plane. i die a lot in either one, but either way, i have a great time. that's all that matters to me. understandably some people have the time to pick things apart. well the game is not a 40 million dollar tank/plane/ship simulator so it comes with certain flaws that we have to deal with. some day HTC will make it better but for now it is what it is.

i know some of you don't feel that way, but i like and play it with all it flaws, i just wish they would bring the SHEEP BACK!!

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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2013, 11:10:58 AM »
I'd say the players are lame, more than the game being lame.

Also, the only time you should get close in a Panther is if you're in company with 5-10 other tanks, and are knocking in the enemy's flank.

Not true at all.   My M18 Crew and I sit on top of hill...eating some cheese...drinking some wine....when down in the valley a Panther lumbers by.  We mount up....start playing our musice really loud....then roll down the hill right up behind its arnold and  blow it away.   LOL.  Then we drive up to the top of the hill and go back to our picinic spot.  East some more cheese and drink some mor wine....  Waiting for the next tank to roll by.    :devil

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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2013, 12:35:57 PM »
Not true at all.   My M18 Crew and I sit on top of hill...eating some cheese...drinking some wine....when down in the valley a Panther lumbers by.  We mount up....start playing our musice really loud....then roll down the hill right up behind its arnold and  blow it away.   LOL.  Then we drive up to the top of the hill and go back to our picinic spot.  East some more cheese and drink some mor wine....  Waiting for the next tank to roll by.    :devil

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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2013, 11:03:03 PM »
and YOU! Go sit on the concrete in your Tiger2 and defend those maprooms!  I suppose the tank gets better mileage that way.....(which brings to mind, a modification......most tanks didn't traverse very fast with engine off?)

Why don't you go drink another one of those cups? huh? You have the weakest rebuttal I have every heard of. And, obviously, zero clue.
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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2013, 11:14:34 PM »
Why don't you go drink another one of those cups? huh? You have the weakest rebuttal I have every heard of. And, obviously, zero clue.


Sounds like he has about as much of a clue as you do in a tank, in that case.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2013, 08:18:19 AM »
Why don't you go drink another one of those cups? huh? You have the weakest rebuttal I have every heard of. And, obviously, zero clue.
my point is (apparently shared by others) is you GV the same way you fly.....absolutely without any sort of risk. Can't deny its effectiveness, but if everyone played as you do, I'd cancel my subscription out of sheer boredom
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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2013, 12:01:09 PM »
See Rule #4
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 09:48:59 AM by Skuzzy »
Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520

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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2013, 12:18:20 PM »
The only planes that get shot with main guns are either deck buffs (who deserve it!), or tards strafing GV's from a near horizontal aspect, trying to pick up cheap kills, else IL2's, etc....BOTH of whom have the ability to shoot from a higher angle than said main gun can be brought to bear
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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2013, 12:22:39 PM »
See Rule #4
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 09:49:18 AM by Skuzzy »
Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520

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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2013, 12:29:36 PM »

Good system did you design it? It's like the crappy straits deal you design that too? The Cupola Commander is the best... extremely realistic. :rolleyes:  And the tanks shooting planes with there main GUN... another extremely realistic feature from the Cupola Commander :rolleyes: the 600 yrd Icon is also a joke.

The old system was better!

Who would you change the TC position?

Tank main guns downing aircraft- yeah, I agree it is a huge travesty in AH.  But, thanks to the coading it is available.  We all know in WWII a tank would run for cover or drive evasively if an enemy aircraft was diving on it, not traverse the turret and take a pot shot with the main gun.  It is extremely gamey but it happens a lot in AH.  Thing is though, how does HTC stop it?

What is wrong with the 600 yd icon?  Are you speaking of an aircraft's ability to spot a gv while parked?  If so, I say count you're blessings that you get an icon at all.  Me?  I'd like to see more like 300 yards when parked, and 1000 when moving (remember, a moving gv is going to kick up dust, show heavier exhaust, etc. Also, the human eye picks up movement much easier than stationary objects).

Oh, and I disagree.  The new system is better!   ;)
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Re: ummm the GV game is lame
« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2013, 12:39:35 PM »
Who would you change the TC position?

Tank main guns downing aircraft- yeah, I agree it is a huge travesty in AH.  But, thanks to the coading it is available.  We all know in WWII a tank would run for cover or drive evasively if an enemy aircraft was diving on it, not traverse the turret and take a pot shot with the main gun.  It is extremely gamey but it happens a lot in AH.  Thing is though, how does HTC stop it?

What is wrong with the 600 yd icon?  Are you speaking of an aircraft's ability to spot a gv while parked?  If so, I say count you're blessings that you get an icon at all.  Me?  I'd like to see more like 300 yards when parked, and 1000 when moving (remember, a moving gv is going to kick up dust, show heavier exhaust, etc. Also, the human eye picks up movement much easier than stationary objects).

Oh, and I disagree.  The new system is better!   ;)

The TC didn't  shoot the gun

 I would say the same for the GV and the icon it sees  :aok why should the GV have an icon advantage?

The new system is easier not better

Edit: Instead of dummying the game down why not ad a halftime arena for folks like you that need it easier? Ala the capture the flag system.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 01:05:09 PM by Megalodon »
Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520