Another gun question

[Flench]

One resone I ask was it be hard for me to put down my Browning Semi Auto 270 . I just don't think one could get a better deer hunting gun .

[james]

One of my next purchases is a Mini14, stainless Ranch Rifle with a good set of optics.....Swarovski maybe ...probably going to look into having it put into a nice highend wood stock, im thinking Tiger Maple.   I always liked the look of that rifle, and am very pleased with the way they function and shoot............one more for the list.

Put an accu-strut on it. I put one on my mini 30 and I shoot close to 2 1/2" groups at 300 yds. Probably get better than that with the mini-14. Of course I only use Golden Bear hollowpoint as well .

[Nefarious]

I collect them and shoot them, that's why I choose to own them.

[Triton28]

..I know in PA hunting with a Semi Auto rifle is against the law.

 

 

[Vudu15]

As far hunting deer with an AK.... dont. AK's were not built to be accurate no matter how desperate a person wants it to be.      

Ultimately, if you want an AR15 or an AK variant of some kind then plan on it being in the case or gun safe unless you're taking it to the range for fun.  If the zombie apocalypse ever comes you will be able to stave off a few based on how much ammo you have.    Do you *need* one to hunt?  No, not at all.  I actually frown upon using them to hunt in their "military" form. It is your choice, but if you're looking for a hunting platform them buy a hunting rifle.  

You are aware that some of the AK style rifles coming out now are more than accurate enough for deer hunting. and another the few deer Ive shot being from East Texas have been at less then 70 yards, if you cant hit a deer accurately at that range you shouldn't be shooting at animals period. That being said do I have an AK no, will I buy an AK probably not. First two deer I killed were with a .22 Hornet and the last couple were with my Model 70 Winchester featherweight in -06. But to tell the people of this forum not to do something, knowing that most of us are knowledgeable enough to know our own limits(or too dumb to listen) is silly to me.

[Triton28]

If your state hunting laws allow it (I'm praying for you and your state, mbailey  ), there is no reason an AR couldn't be a good hunting platform.

In VA, we have a restriction on big game hunting with anything .22 caliber and below, which is stupid IMO.  Right across the border in WV,  their only restriction is the rifle must be centerfire, which opens up anything down to a .22 Hornet.  Having personally witnessed a .22 magnum take down a fairly robust 8 pointer (shot placement is king, after all), I wouldn't have any reservations about taking a typical "good shot" with a .223.  Range would be more limited, of course, which may be a factor for you down there.

The accuracy potential for most well built AR's shocks most people who've never messed with them.  While I've seen a good number of good shooting non-AR semi's in my lifetime, the AR raises the bar.  There is TONS of info and tips on the net for making AR's more accurate.

Something like a Nosler Partition would be excellent bullet choice.  Especially if you reload, there is absolutely no reason why a .223 can't offer up more than adequate results.  

*edit* - I totally forgot to mention the plethora of other calibers available in the AR.  While I would stay away from most, the AR10/SR25 pattern guns are chambered for .308.  The .300 Blackout is another option, with the big advantage being after a barrel change, everything else(bolt, mags, etc.) in the typical 5.56/.223 AR interchanges.  If I were to build a non .223 hunting AR (and money weren't really an object), I'd look directly at the Knights Armament SR-25 or the LMT MWS.  Both have excellent reputations.

[mbailey]

 

Thats ok...i dont mind at all....I rarely use a second round anyway 

[Triton28]

Thats ok...i dont mind at all....I rarely use a second round anyway 

Ahh... the patient stand hunter.  I can do that sometimes... when I fall asleep.   

[mbailey]

  when I fall asleep.   

   Heck i sleep better in the woods, than i do in my bed

[Flench]

Now if the AR-15 came in a 243 cal ,I would not mine having one .

[DEECONX]

Now if the AR-15 came in a 243 cal ,I would not mine having one .

That would actually be an AR10 and yes, you can get one in a 243. 

[Triton28]

Now if the AR-15 came in a 243 cal ,I would not mine having one .

There are .243 AR's out there, but they'll likely be from "boutique" or less well known makers (read: could be good or could suck) and very hard to find.  A lot of these off caliber AR's suffer from feeding/extraction issues from sheer lack of testing.  As an owner of a Browning semi, I'm sure you know the fine line the gun walks from the moment you pull the trigger until the next round is chambered.  Some guns run like sewing machines, others choke and puke their way to the junk pile.  AR's are no different, and it's made worse because everyone and their brother makes them.

One thing I've learned about AR's over the last several years... all AR's are not created equal.  

[Triton28]

http://www.lmtstore.com/complete-weapon-systems-firearms-guns/complete-gas-weapons/308-modular-weapon-system-black-barrel.html



They've gone up $700 since the last time I looked!   

[Triton28]

Also, you can go here:  http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=10

Good info along side of some of the usual idiots.  M4C does everyone a favor by identifying "experts" (industry professionals, subject matter experts, etc.) under the user name.

[guncrasher]

Why would a person want a AR-15 or AK-47 ?  I have been thinking of buying one BUT what would I use it for . I think each gun is a tool and that tool is used for what season it is . Like I am a big time hunter . Hunt every chance I get but I'm not going to deer hunt with a AK-47 so why buy one ? I'm not going to use it to protect my home so I can't justis buying one .

I guess you need to follow the old logic, if you need to ask then you dont need it.  you dont get a gun so you can find a way to use it, but because you have a use for it.


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