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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2013, 05:48:47 PM »
I think most people buy the AKs, ARs, tactical shotguns and  SKS' because they look cool and are fun to shoot. Personally, I'd feel like a idiot packing one in the timber to hunt something.

Other then my turkey/pheasant gun,(Remington 12ga.) I'm a black powder guy myself.
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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2013, 06:03:58 PM »
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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2013, 07:06:13 PM »
Personally, I'd feel like a idiot packing one in the timber to hunt something.

Other then my turkey/pheasant gun,(Remington 12ga.) I'm a black powder guy myself.

Being an idiot is carrying a .300 Win Mag in the woods during squirrel season.   :D

It's really just the stereotype that's making you feel that way.  The actual operation of the gun differs little from more 'traditional' looking guns.  The advantages are a proven, rugged design with a higher potential for accuracy vs. other semi-auto's.  Whether it tickles your fancy though, is another matter entirely. 

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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2013, 07:51:23 PM »
I use them for pigs. We have a very large problem with pigs in Texas, and the AR 15 type rifles and AK type work the best for that. You're  able to take down multiple at a time.  Plus as its been said in this thread they really are fun to shoot. :aok :salute

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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2013, 07:56:52 PM »
i've filed recently for my foid. i had originally planned only on target shooting, and possibly some sort of competitions like i did with archery. a longtime customer(been working on his cars for over 15 years) has offered to take me under his wing hunting, including covering my butt if i lose the stomach to gut the animal after i kill it. that's a good thing, 'cause i KNOW i can't do that after shooting it. he said it's not as hard as i think, and he'll work with me.
 since someday i'll probably need to be able to do this, i'm gonna take him up on his offer. he's a cool old guy, and has always been good to deal with.

 so.......i'll probably end up with fancy stuff for target/competition/zombie apocalypse, and "normal" stuff to take out in the field to kill dinner with. or i'll give the old guy a good laugh and take some of the fancy stuff out there too, lol
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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2013, 08:14:45 PM »
Being an idiot is carrying a .300 Win Mag in the woods during squirrel season.   :D

It's really just the stereotype that's making you feel that way.  The actual operation of the gun differs little from more 'traditional' looking guns.  The advantages are a proven, rugged design with a higher potential for accuracy vs. other semi-auto's.  Whether it tickles your fancy though, is another matter entirely. 

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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2013, 08:49:37 PM »
If you use a lever action in .30-30 you're not shooting much beyond 100 yards due to the rounded nose bullets; maximum effective range at about 200 yards.
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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2013, 09:05:27 PM »
Nice. The "flex tip" is some sort of rubber compound protecting the primers I take it?
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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2013, 09:24:03 PM »
One rifle not mentioned yet in this thread that fulfills both the "hunting" and "tactical" requirements is the M14/M1A rifles.  It has a decent cartridge that is more than enough for deer/elk, and can even take care of moose with the proper ammunition (.308 hunting ammo), and also has the ability to be quickly reloaded by a detachable high capacity box magazine (typically a 20 rounder).  For 1500$ you can find a version that is "National Match" quality in terms of accuracy i.e. it will likely out shoot your capability to shoot it, at least in the offhand or standing position.  Sure, it has a WW2 vintage wood stock sans pistol grip, but in terms of capability, it surpasses the AR platform in many regards, such as energy delivered on target, range, and sometimes accuracy.

I think the old "but you can't hunt with it, so why should somebody want it or need it" argument was old 20 years ago.  Honestly, the reason why many shooters take "comfort" in owning an AR based rifle is that it is the primary weapon of their nations armed forces and police, and that in a time of some future unforeseeable and unpredictable crisis, said owner will have parts not only available but compatible with their rifle, and magazines and ammunition will be easily available as well.  I suppose this also holds true for the present time, due to the fact of the AR platforms popularity there is ample available parts, ammunition, and magazines - times of saber rattling not withstanding and the temporarily empty shelves as a result.  I believe this to be true as there is dozens of different "assault" type rifles available to the public in the USA, yet the AR platform outsells all of them put together for a reason, and it isn't quality, cost, or capability as there is many types that are superior to a base/stock-ish AR not in one of those categories, but all of them.


The AK while not being any western nation's primary rifle is still quite popular with the general population, and has a large following due to its lack of expense when compared to an AR, as well as a perceived higher "robustness" than the AR platform rifles by many of its users.  There is also many manufacturers of the AK in the USA of note, which build far better rifles in terms of quality and tolerance than their Chinese and Russian counterparts.  
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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2013, 10:47:39 PM »
I use them for pigs. We have a very large problem with pigs in Texas, and the AR 15 type rifles and AK type work the best for that. You're  able to take down multiple at a time.  Plus as its been said in this thread they really are fun to shoot. :aok :salute
Now that would be fun  :aok
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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2013, 10:58:07 PM »
Now that would be fun  :aok
We have way too much fun :D :aok. About six of us go out with our AR 15s and each come back with normally three coolers full. :)

Here's two of the four AR15s that we took last time.

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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2013, 12:04:40 AM »
Nice. The "flex tip" is some sort of rubber compound protecting the primers I take it?

from what i understand of it (and someone feel free to correct me on this) its basically a hollow point with a rubber tip to improve the balistics
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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2013, 04:36:01 AM »
I can relate with you Sum41.


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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2013, 04:40:13 AM »
from what i understand of it (and someone feel free to correct me on this) its basically a hollow point with a rubber tip to improve the balistics
From what ive read its for lever guns with tubular mags.
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Re: Another gun question
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2013, 06:18:27 AM »
One of my next purchases is a Mini14, stainless Ranch Rifle

That or an M1 Carbine is my next gun. I really want the Ranch Rifle but I also wanting the M1 Carbine as a companion for my M1 Garand.

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