Another gun question

[Flench]

Being an idiot is carrying a .300 Win Mag in the woods during squirrel season.    

 

That and a ticket here . I grew up shooting a Remington 742 , 30-06 and killed a many many deer with it but went to the Browning 270 in 89 after I seen a guy in our hunting club hunting with one for a few year's . The gun well never jam like the Remington will after a box of ammo has been shot through it . That's 24 year's of hunting I have put on my Browning and it has never jammed the first time and has killed a many many deer .
 I think I will buy a small Browning hand gun next that I can carry concealed besides my heavy S&W 9mm .

[Triton28]

Nice. The "flex tip" is some sort of rubber compound protecting the primers I take it?

Correct.

Like someone else said, it tries to fix the poor ballistic profile of the flat nose 30-30, which has traditionally been that way to avoid primer detonation in tube magazines.

I've not tried them, as I have no need to stretch my 30-30 out to longer ranges.  If the 30-30 goes out in the field with me, I'm basically looking for something under 150 yards. 

[1sum41]

I can relate with you Sum41.

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Nice!

[CAP1]

That and a ticket here . I grew up shooting a Remington 742 , 30-06 and killed a many many deer with it but went to the Browning 270 in 89 after I seen a guy in our hunting club hunting with one for a few year's . The gun well never jam like the Remington will after a box of ammo has been shot through it . That's 24 year's of hunting I have put on my Browning and it has never jammed the first time and has killed a many many deer .
 I think I will buy a small Browning hand gun next that I can carry concealed besides my heavy S&W 9mm .

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 OK.... now that's funny!! gonna steal it for facebook, lolol

[Wiley]

From what ive read its for lever guns with tubular mags.

Well, pretty much all 30-30 factory loads are designed around tubular mags.  The normal previous solution had the noses being quite flat, but made of metal.  This would prevent a jar setting off the primers, but ballistic coefficients sucked.  The flex tips there look interesting, not quite sure what I make of them.

30-30 wouldn't be improved THAT much by a more aerodynamic bullet, I'd imagine.  Still, kind of neat.

Wiley.

[GScholz]

You'd be surprised how much longer a spitzer bullet retains energy. Especially if it's a boat tail too. It will just about double the effective range of a rifle cartridge, compared to round-nosed bullets.

[Triton28]

You'd be surprised how much longer a spitzer bullet retains energy. Especially if it's a boat tail too. It will just about double the effective range of a rifle cartridge, compared to round-nosed bullets.

It would be interesting to see if you're right.  I've always put my range limit on the 30-30 to 150 yards.  A 300 yard shot with a 30-30 is Quigley Down Under stuff to me.   

[Wiley]

It would be interesting to see if you're right.  I've always put my range limit on the 30-30 to 150 yards.  A 300 yard shot with a 30-30 is Quigley Down Under stuff to me.   

Lemme guess...  Model 94 with buckhorn sights, right?

The one I grew up with had a sight I've never seen on one before or since.  It wasn't a flip up peep sight mounted on the tang behind the hammer, it was a peepsight mounted just in between the hammer and the ejector port.  2 screws on the side of the receiver and then it came over the top in front of the hammer.  Simple as hell, durable as all hell, but doubled the sight radius on the thing.

First deer I ever shot was with that thing at ~250 yards.

Wiley.

[GScholz]

Don't know about the .30-30; it doesn't look optimal. It looks short, like a pistol bullet. How far is the bullet pressed into the cartridge?

The 7.62x39 that people say the .30-30 is equal to in energy has a proper spitzer boat tail bullet. Fired from an AK it is still supersonic at 400 yards. The iron sight on the AK is adjustable up to 800 meters; with the AKM they increased it to 1000 meters. I wonder what they were hoping to hit at one kilometer with an AK...

[rogwar]

30-30
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The stuff had me bring my old Marlin that I got at 12 back into service. With a new Burris scope it now shoots good at 200yds. That's the max distance I'd shoot it at game or course. Popped a hog at 150yds now problem.

[Wiley]

Don't know about the .30-30; it doesn't look optimal. It looks short, like a pistol bullet. How far is the bullet pressed into the cartridge?

The 7.62x39 that people say the .30-30 is equal to in energy has a proper spitzer boat tail bullet. Fired from an AK it is still supersonic at 400 yards. The iron sight on the AK is adjustable up to 800 meters; with the AKM they increased it to 1000 meters. I wonder what they were hoping to hit at one kilometer with an AK...

At 1 km if someone with an AK started popping off, I'd get behind something.  Heck, a 30-30, even a .22, I'd get behind something.  At 300fps a .30 cal projectile has enough oomph to be lethal if it hits the right spot on a person, is something I recall reading once.

Wiley.

[Triton28]

Lemme guess...  Model 94 with buckhorn sights, right?

The one I grew up with had a sight I've never seen on one before or since.  It wasn't a flip up peep sight mounted on the tang behind the hammer, it was a peepsight mounted just in between the hammer and the ejector port.  2 screws on the side of the receiver and then it came over the top in front of the hammer.  Simple as hell, durable as all hell, but doubled the sight radius on the thing.

First deer I ever shot was with that thing at ~250 yards.

Wiley.

Model 94 Carbine (Trapper) with saddle ring.  

Never seen a peep sight on a 94.  I need to get out more.  

Don't know about the .30-30; it doesn't look optimal. It looks short, like a pistol bullet. How far is the bullet pressed into the cartridge?

The 7.62x39 that people say the .30-30 is equal to in energy has a proper spitzer boat tail bullet. Fired from an AK it is still supersonic at 400 yards. The iron sight on the AK is adjustable up to 800 meters; with the AKM they increased it to 1000 meters. I wonder what they were hoping to hit at one kilometer with an AK...

The 30-30 accepts a standard .308 bullet, and without having ever loaded for the 30-30 I don't know off the top of my head what the typical seating depth is.  I would bet it's on par with most .30 caliber rifles though.

And yes, I've wondered about those 1000 yard sights too.  

[Triton28]

That and a ticket here . I grew up shooting a Remington 742 , 30-06 and killed a many many deer with it but went to the Browning 270 in 89 after I seen a guy in our hunting club hunting with one for a few year's . The gun well never jam like the Remington will after a box of ammo has been shot through it . That's 24 year's of hunting I have put on my Browning and it has never jammed the first time and has killed a many many deer .
 I think I will buy a small Browning hand gun next that I can carry concealed besides my heavy S&W 9mm .

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I've seen 740's run and run and run... and I've seen a few that couldn't get through a mag without choking.   

Most of my rifles are Remingtons.  I'm a bit of a fanboy.  Yet not everything they make is gold.   

[MrRiplEy[H]]

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That picture reminded me of the Simpsons episode where Homer learned he could shoot anyone within his home so he went out to call Flanders for a visit

[uptown]

Here's my .32 cal sniper rifle. One shot one kill boys.