Replace icons with glowing outline on tail

[Nr_RaVeN]

 oops...Double post.

[Nr_RaVeN]

I agree, no icons in the AVA is awesome.  

Yea the limeted Icons in the there are fun too. That's another alternative to the MA.

 To be clear I in no way am suggesting that the MA convert to a no icon setting.  
The MA is fun the way it is right now. The MA is set just right for mass appeal
Changing the MA settings would be a huge mistake to the fine business model that HTC has perfected.

 That said there are other alternatives to the MA that make AH such a divers simming experience. For example, the smaller arenas that choose limited icon settings or the limited icon setting we see in FSO and other special events from time to time.
 
No icons simply takes that concept one step further.

That's were the custom arenas come in.
 Its another great, yet under utilised offering by HTC to satisfy another segment of the sim market. All be it a small one. The custom's allow for diversity and are only limeted by ones imagination. That's the place to enjoy something different such as no icons.
 
For those that are looking to mix things up a bit that's the place to make it happen w/o effecting the integrity of the MA.  

 NO ICONS ROCK LEARN MORE HERE

[icepac]

Making noe cons and landed planes visible from 6.0k out to the enemy will have a huge effect.

I don't think the feedback would be positive.

[Megalodon]

where do ya get an idea like that?

[icepac]

[Torquila]

  at the f22, clearly this is a sign from the world outside!

 

[jimson]

Raven isn't referring to or recruiting for the AvA.

He hasn't been on staff for a while because he needed to focus on his business pursuits. He may also want to pursue his own thing in the Custom Arenas.

The con dot and silhouette graphics aren't optimized any better in IL2, but that doesn't stop no icon games from being very popular there.

I haven't had IL2/Hyperlobby since I switched PC's but when I did, the Warbirds of Prey no icon, Axis vs Allies type servers regularly had 15 to 50 players in them. In the years I've been here, we can't do that consistently in AvA, with any kind of icon settings.

JFC, the group I flew with in IL2, was way harder than just no icons. There were no position indicators or icons on the maps either. You had to navigate by landmark and IFR (I follow roads and railroads)

It was a hell of a fun challenge, but their campaigns were on weekends and I work every weekend, plus I was kind of busy here anyway.

Different communities are into different things, I guess. It doesn't make one better than the other, but it doesn't make one non viable either.

[captain1ma]

In the AVA, to compensate for no enemy icons, the radar setting are usually turned up. low icon setting is at 200. if you fly at 1k or higher, no one will ever sneak up on you as long as you have radar up. this is done to keep people from sneaking up and killing people. it has been like that for a very long time. to say that cloud cover and background terrain is a advantage, it absolutely is. so is the paint scheme on the planes. colors matter in the AVA. that's what makes it different. in the mains, you can grab a plane and use any paint scheme you want, but that red sticker will give you away. in the AVA it wont, and works to your advantage. it also works for the other guy when he needs to "extend" and uses ground clutter to move away.

the AVA is an alternative, and not for everyone. we wish that more people liked it as much as we do. those that fly it like. some that go in there don't. plenty of choices in the game, everyone makes their own fun, we try to make the AVA as much fun as possible. do we hit the mark every time, probably not, but we do try hard! <S>

[VansCrew1]

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