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Offline Franz Von Werra

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"muppet pass" achievement
« on: February 24, 2013, 06:24:42 AM »
"muppet pass achievement"
This move is as old as dogfighting, but the first time I ever heard it named, it was called a "muppet pass."
Enemy overshoots player, player shoots and kills enemy before any next maneuvers.
Only way to register it, I suppose,  would be if overshooter first pinged the player.

Two planes: dodobird and muppet.

so, if Dodobird pings Muppet, and then within 10 seconds, Muppet pings Dodobird, and gets credit for the kill of Dodobird, then it's a "muppet pass" achievement.
Maybe have it declared even after 10 seconds if say Dodobird lost a whole wing or whole tail, but didn't bail out for more than 10seconds later. So somthing fatal within 10seconds would award the achievement.

I witnessed Grizz (in a 262) do this to Drbone (in a La7) a year back or so. Wizer may have been there, not sure. Neither of them reffered to it as a "muppet pass" though heh.
A few of us were trying to land, not sure who had killed DrBone earlier, but he had come back in an La7 after the 262!

It takes a heck of a lot of Situational Awareness and coordination to guage where the enemy is going to be and line up nose to that vector to hook him as he goes by... not easy. You're looking out back window, and guaging where he's going to be in your front window, then see him out side window... etc... then fire and boom.
Ten seconds is probably too much time, it happens faster than that... You guys be the judge? five seconds?
« Last Edit: February 24, 2013, 06:30:41 AM by Franz Von Werra »
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2013, 06:31:13 AM »
Not a muppet pass

If anything I would call it a Levi/Wldthng/Mane pass

These days it is common as muck, but 10 years ago it was rare
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2013, 06:53:20 AM »
Its not supposed to be when like normal dogfighting. It's more when Dodobird is going say at least 30% faster speed atleast. Like Dodobird more or less 'Bouncing' or 'Picking' the muppet. This is why i was cutting the time.
10 seconds is a normal overshoot kill. Add the factor that Dodobird's speed is 30% faster than Muppet?

Seems like this could slow down the game if the program is constantly checking 5 seconds and speeds. hmm
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2013, 12:35:52 PM »

Seems like this could slow down the game if the program is constantly checking 5 seconds and speeds. hmm

I'm pretty sure it's doing more than that millions of times a second already :)

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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2013, 04:07:24 AM »
I think it was actually called a "muppet shot" when someone saw me do it! I don't remember who said it, was years back. "that was a muppet shot," said.

For me its rare... no idea your skillz or what what. As stated, its even worse because the 'must be pinged first'... say 6 seconds between 'he pings you' and 'you kill him.'
Again, trick is to hook em before he extends away...

Post a footage if its soooo common! Bunch per flight? Lets see em! I'm waiting... someone help em out?  :D
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2013, 09:03:51 AM »
Another muppet humper!
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2013, 09:39:45 AM »
La7 dives on seemingly defenseless and damaged yak9.





There should be some sort of time limit.....maybe a 10 second window after last hits landed by the attacker/overshooter and the hits from the plane that was overshot.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2013, 09:56:33 AM by icepac »

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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 12:06:39 PM »
Franz is to Muppets as Midway is to ____
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 03:22:07 PM »
Another muppet humper!

I dont think this has anything to do with the AOM :aok

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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2013, 03:33:16 PM »
Tom cruise maneuver.... Enemy on six, cut the gas hard rudder. Now on enemy six pull trigger they die

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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2013, 03:33:51 PM »
I thought it was called British fighter pilet chit?   
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2013, 03:45:34 PM »
Bah not as funny as originally thouught.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2013, 03:53:38 PM by Nathan60 »
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2013, 03:55:34 PM »
I dont think this has anything to do with the AOM :aok
he did go on to say grizz did it so I put two and two together lol
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2013, 04:30:34 PM »
"Muppet pass" otherwise known as a "barrel roll defense".
Yeah, that's right, you just got your rear handed to you by a fuggly puppet!
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Re: "muppet pass" achievement
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2013, 02:42:51 PM »
Was a Great shot I recall it like it happen yesterday.

Grizz has been the only ever to make unbelievable shots from the most outrageous ranges.

I have not seen much of Grizz on here then again I have not been around either send my best wishes to him.  :salute :salute
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