bomb aiming ?????????

[Busher]

Actually quite the opposite.

Have you ever felt the wind coming from one direction and looked up to see the clouds going the opposite way?

After 42 years of professional flying, my experience is that winds at altitude are relatively stable in direction and get progressively stronger as you climb. The kind of windshear being modelled at relatively low altitudes would indicate a weather system not suitable for visual flight.

But maybe more importantly, People play for many reasons not the least of which is a sense of accomplishment. Taking any precision out of bombing and making it mostly an element of chance will no doubt lead to people generally not operating bombers at all.

Respectfully.

[Megalodon]

Earl said in another post.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,347368.0.html

Fixed

[Eric19]

I was having moderate success last night in the MA from 15,147ft in a lancaster with a salvo 3 500s I had to aim about 300-400yds to the right of my target though

[Lusche]

I think there's a bug with the bomb sight. I just made a run in the He-111 at 11k, so my bombs should have only been affected by the 10k-12k layer of 20mph southern wind.
But as a matter of fact, my bombs landed about as much to the east as they did in my 22k Lancs, as if they would had gone through the upper layers of the west wind blowing from 16k up.

[ImADot]

Unless something else was changed with a recent update, once your bomb is dropped it is not affected by wind. Wind only affected your plane's flight path. The "manual" bomb calibration that is widely used in special events takes into account how much the wind is pushing you to the side - something that the easy-mode auto calibration in the mains does not do for you. So I say they should bring back the "manual" calibration again.

[Karnak]

Unless something else was changed with a recent update, once your bomb is dropped it is not affected by wind. Wind only affected your plane's flight path. The "manual" bomb calibration that is widely used in special events takes into account how much the wind is pushing you to the side - something that the easy-mode auto calibration in the mains does not do for you. So I say they should bring back the "manual" calibration again.

If I could turn it on in the MA for my own use I would.

[Megalodon]

I was looking at the wind settings and it seems "Rise" and "Fall" of the wind can also be added to "Direction" and "Speed". I assume that is the angle of the wind. When I set some angle in the wind the arrows and values or the wind direction change from the set speed and direction of all settings.

Just think if HT tossed in some Angle. 


Would a 4-6k wind separation be better?



Wind is cool, 
 

[thndregg]

Taking any precision out of bombing and making it mostly an element of chance will no doubt lead to people generally not operating bombers at all.

Respectfully.

I tend to agree. Similar to how controls are simplified in the cockpit just enough to retain that realistic and asthetic "feel" for us real life non-pilots. Better for gameplay.

[HornetUK]

i have no problem with real life but it is not in this game but if you climb for half an hour and then can not hit anything because of there no way to compensate for the fall through 30000ft of air through various wind layers what is the point?????????????????????

[Zoney]

i have no problem with real life but it is not in this game but if you climb for half an hour and then can not hit anything because of there no way to compensate for the fall through 30000ft of air through various wind layers what is the point?????????????????????

If you are too high to hit your targets then the solution would be to fly lower.  Of course that would involve more risk and you might have to actually engage some aircraft during your milk run.

How accurate do you think their bomb drops were from 30k IRL ?

You get 3 aircraft if you fly with formations enabled, increasing your survivability , ummm 3 times.
You get F3 view to make it easy to spot incoming bandits.
You can have a teammate join you long after you've taken off to gun for you.
You can get teammates to escort you in any aircraft they want.
You can fly at full power untill you run out of gas without any engine failure.

[bustr]

i have no problem with real life but it is not in this game but if you climb for half an hour and then can not hit anything because of there no way to compensate for the fall through 30000ft of air through various wind layers what is the point?????????????????????

B29's over japan couldn't hit anything from alt's like that because the wind would scatter their bombs all over the country side. That's why they were ordered to bomb from 12k which worked. Even in the ETO with bomb runs at 20k or so, it still took a massive wave of bombers to get enough bombs onto the target to accomplish anything. You are playing in an air combat simulator using WW2 aircraft with WW2 technology.

Suddenly the owner of the game takes away your lazer guided bombs from the 21st century and all of you start crying. The reality of WW2 heavy bombing was you needed a bomber wing in force to destroy targets the size of our airfields. Or you use faster medium bombers at lower alts to hit and run targets.

If there is a bug with the wind bombsight relationship HiTech will fix it. Otherwise adapt to no longer having bombs dropping in a perfect vacuum triggered by a lazer range finder called easy mode bombing.

[guncrasher]

When was the last time you had really seen a 30k+ hangar dropping Lanc?

every day I have played for the last few years. 


semp

[Karnak]

bustr,

The problem is how that translates into gameplay.  If we had hundreds of bombs to carpet bomb an airfield that would be all and well, but we don't. We basically need to simulate the effect of many bombers while actually having few bombers and because all of the craters across the countryside are irrelevant all we need to do is allow those few bombers to hit useful targets.  Change that so that we'd need hundreds of bombers and what happens is we get more "Lancstukas" and Jabos and less bombers being used as level bombers. 

[bj229r]

If you are too high to hit your targets then the solution would be to fly lower.  Of course that would involve more risk and you might have to actually engage some aircraft during your milk run.

How accurate do you think their bomb drops were from 30k IRL ?

You get 3 aircraft if you fly with formations enabled, increasing your survivability , ummm 3 times.
You get F3 view to make it easy to spot incoming bandits.
You can have a teammate join you long after you've taken off to gun for you.
You can get teammates to escort you in any aircraft they want.
You can fly at full power untill you run out of gas without any engine failure.

Anything below 20k in a populated area you'll be engaged by enemy aircraft....fly much below 15k, your odds of survival are low (now, if you're hitting factories, etc, then you'll prolly not be messed with much) To avoid the wind altogether, you have to bomb at <10k, which is surely to get you nailed by the inevitable cannon birds orbiting their base in an endless holding pattern.....unless you're milking empty areas/factories, you're gonna die under 10k. IT is what it is, but if it stays the way it is right now, folks are gonna quit flying buffs, just like they did in '03-'04....not worth the time investment. If the bomb drift were somewhat predictable (like--cv's...pretty much one boat length for every 10k) it would be manageable

[Lusche]

every day I have played for the last few years. 


semp

Certainly not.