Tanking

[DropFoot]

I use a T34/85 and hit a Panzer 7 times in various places and they bounce off. I get killed in one shot by same. Something is wrong with that don't you think.

[RedBull1]

Hi, welcome to the BBS! He, you'll need this:

[Fish42]

I use a T34/85 and hit a Panzer 7 times in various places and they bounce off. I get killed in one shot by same. Something is wrong with that don't you think.

Film? you might be hitting at long range with HVAP rounds or at poor angles. People need to see the film to check.

[HighTone]

I use a T34/85 and hit a Panzer 7 times in various places and they bounce off. I get killed in one shot by same. Something is wrong with that don't you think.

The reason its bouncing off is because of your angle of impact. You are not putting the rounds in the correct spot, or firing outside the range of your gun.

[Blooz]

I use a T34/85 and hit a Panzer 7 times in various places and they bounce off. I get killed in one shot by same. Something is wrong with that don't you think.

Yup. I do think something is wrong with that. Trouble is, it's probably not what you think it is....lol!

Welcome aboard!

[MK-84]

I use a T34/85 and hit a Panzer 7 times in various places and they bounce off. I get killed in one shot by same. Something is wrong with that don't you think.

Short answer. No.

Long answer. Velocity, type of ammunition, angle of shell impact, location of shell impact, range to impact, thickness of enemies armor...

In AH you can not say "I have a big gun, he should have died". when it comes to tanking.  AH includes a list of tank armor and penetration values in the hanger, you should check that out, it may help.

[WWhiskey]

I'd like to help you out with some time in the training arena if you are interested?
Pm me  to let me know when you would like to meet up.

[Tank-Ace]

That and the Panzer IV's glacis plate has a ridiculous LOS thickness. If you hit there, you WILL bounce. If hes angled, his 80mm drivers plate will stop most of the crap flying around.

Also, the Panzer IV F2 can kill a Panther in a few hits out to about 1600yds. I've personally done it before. I've one-shotted T-34's from the front with an M4(75) as well. Its all about shot placment. The lower hull of the T-34 is very squishy, as it is for the M4, and Panther, although the T-34 seems to be the squishiest. The reason is that the T-34 has 45mm of sloped armor, which curves around to the lower hull. As it curves, the slope decreases, so there is a point where you only have 45mm of protection.



The Panzer IV's armor, while less sloped in general, is much more angular, which means that it will give more random "wtf" moments than the T-34 will with its more uniform shape. My guess, you just had really s**t luck.

[Molsman]

it's all about luck tank armor and hit placement it is almost like being in math class with the angles and all

[scott66]

i found my tiger 1 was worth every penny of perks (32) at the time in late war.mine took a direct hit from a bomb from a jug and it damaged my right track but i lived .since im bad at math and dont know where to hit the tank i need the 88mm rounds to compinsate lol good luck tanking is new to me but loving every minute

[danny76]

Every tank I ever meet manages to hit that sweet spot on my tank, whatever our respective vehicles, usually from 2k away and always way before I even see him. Hence my sum total of a single gv sortie this tour in an M3. In which, to my eternal surprise, I got tagged by an enemy tank from about 2k without seeing him

[scott66]

see i dont even know how to judge distance lol in a tank i just walk my rounds to him i get alot of tanks shooting me thru trees and when i try to return fire my shells explode from hitting trees i guess we both will get the hang of it eventualy lmao ...good luck sir

[The Fury]

Every tank I ever meet manages to hit that sweet spot on my tank, whatever our respective vehicles, usually from 2k away and always way before I even see him. Hence my sum total of a single gv sortie this tour in an M3. In which, to my eternal surprise, I got tagged by an enemy tank from about 2k without seeing him

Lol Danny you seem to have my set of skills in gvs and attacking buffs too (from another thread) im no good at either too 

[DropFoot]

I was hitting at 2.2k with AP. The fact that the ricochets were bouncing off at different angles meant I was hitting in different locations. I've studied armor and velocity charts, hence the confusion. I'll probably reply to WWhiskey's offer in the training room since that seems the most reasonable. The geometry answers seem to assume I just point and shoot but know nothing. Thanks for all the perspectives gamers.

[SmokinLoon]

it is do refreshing to see people explaining the "range and angle of impact" trump cards.     

BTW... the T34/85mm AP round is only ahead of the M3, T34/76, M4/75, and Pzr IV F/2.  Otherwise, it takes a back seat to the M4/76 and M18, Pzr IV H, Tiger, Panther, Firefly, and Tiger II (and in that order).