Author Topic: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers  (Read 833 times)

Offline RedBull1

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In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« on: April 19, 2013, 03:09:02 AM »
So these are just a few questions after seeing a couple guncam clips from WWII and I note three things:

1.) the amount of tracers coming out of their guns seem to be about 1/2 of the amount of tracers that come out of our guns (ex. the pony or f4u) - perhaps it's just me though

2.) Most of the tracers I see in these clips (a few of the clips were in color) are actually red rather than our yellow tracers

3.) why do our tracers have those white streaks behind them? I always disliked the white streak (I assume it's supposed to be a smoke trail from the bullets?) I don't really see anything close to that in the clips.



Again, I am in no way an expert, just a few observations I was curious about.




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edit: after looking through the clips again, actually most if not all tracers were yellow, but as they got further away they turned red  :headscratch:

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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2013, 03:18:07 AM »
REDDDDDDDDDDDBULLLLLLLLLL :joystick: :lol :banana: :salute i seen the same thing untill i changed my MEDS...
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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2013, 06:41:23 AM »
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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2013, 10:01:10 AM »
  Did any fighters actually load NO tracers in WW2? It's bothersome in game to not be able to see how poorly some dweeb shoots at you. Unless you are a realy good don't do it.  :old:
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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2013, 01:37:58 PM »
I recall reading some WW2 air combat stuff, where the pilot asked the ground personnel to load the belts with every fifth with tracers. That leads me to believe the pilot could affect the density of tracer rounds - or even leave them away if he felt like a really good shot.

About the colours: IMO WW2 colour films weren't too accurate in colour reproduction and the bygone 70 years certainly have had an affect to the originals even before they started to transfer them to first magnetic, then digital formats. Add to that, that there was and still is several types of films which act differently by their very nature. Some are vivid, some flat, some tend to overexpose certain hues to warm or cold/red or blue. Heck, even my monitor has a bunch of presets like "photo", "movie", "standard" etc. With all these variations you really can't tell the real colour until you've seen the real stuff. Even then your senses may lie, making you believe an enhanced picture is the most life-like.

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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2013, 01:48:22 PM »
I thought I'd seen the trails of bullets in some guncam footage I've happened by over the years, although to be honest when I think about it, most of my memories of bullets hitting aircraft are from the game... :D  Kinda sad now...

The number of tracers I see in the game seem to be pretty close to what I've seen in videos though...  Current bugged display lancs excepted.

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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2013, 02:02:56 PM »
I thought the white trail was a vapor trail. Perhaps the water vapor in the air is condensed due the pressure created by the shock wave around the bullet, tunring it into liquid water droplets which reflects/refracts light differently than water vapor so they show up as white.
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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2013, 02:18:40 PM »
So these are just a few questions after seeing a couple guncam clips from WWII and I note three things:

1.) the amount of tracers coming out of their guns seem to be about 1/2 of the amount of tracers that come out of our guns (ex. the pony or f4u) - perhaps it's just me though

2.) Most of the tracers I see in these clips (a few of the clips were in color) are actually red rather than our yellow tracers

3.) why do our tracers have those white streaks behind them? I always disliked the white streak (I assume it's supposed to be a smoke trail from the bullets?) I don't really see anything close to that in the clips.


This is not anything to do with film.

1.) Your computer has the real bullets for your airplane, what you see other people shoot is just an approximation bullet so that you can see that he is shooting tracers. We cut down on the numbers of tracers simply for frame rates.

2.) Tracers come many different colors. We chose our color based on working in a computer environment.

3.) Depending on what tracers you have , you will see smoke trails behind them. There are many examples on you tube showing different smoke trail visuals.

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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2013, 03:09:59 PM »
This is not anything to do with film.

1.) Your computer has the real bullets for your airplane, what you see other people shoot is just an approximation bullet so that you can see that he is shooting tracers. We cut down on the numbers of tracers simply for frame rates.

2.) Tracers come many different colors. We chose our color based on working in a computer environment.

3.) Depending on what tracers you have , you will see smoke trails behind them. There are many examples on you tube showing different smoke trail visuals.

HiTech
 


Cool stuff, thanks :aok
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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2013, 03:29:47 PM »
Frankly if you're not playing, your opinion is poo.... come back so your opinion won't be poo....just one more RB, just one more......
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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2013, 03:39:24 PM »
Did the Russians use green tracers back then?
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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2013, 03:42:45 PM »
Frankly if you're not playing, your opinion is poo.... come back so your opinion won't be poo....just one more RB, just one more......


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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2013, 04:07:49 PM »
Those are phosphorous trails you noobs. Look at any gun cam films from WWII. No the russians didn't use green tracers back then, neither did any of the other soviet states.
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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2013, 04:09:40 PM »
SO is it just the Tracer round that has the vapor trail? seams to me like when tracers are on all bullets have vapor and when off none do...seams like the vapor trail should always be there even when tracers are off....idk tho im nab :rolleyes:

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Re: In Game Tracers vs Guncam Tracers
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2013, 04:13:49 PM »

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