Countries out of balance

[Getback]

Who cares about the war? really. I certainly stopped after my first few months playing. Base capture and the war is there to create furballs. Whether you are Knit,Bish,Rook makes no difference, only difference is some days the furballs are better at one country over the others hence I change countries often.


<S>...-Gixer

I've been heading straight into the furballs at low alt since coming back from a 2 month LOA. It's been a fun! I figured my fighter skills could use a touch up. It's pretty awesome flying into a horde and getting a few kills before being overwhelmed by numbers and then upping again and trying to do a bit better. In this respect I just had much more fun doing it as a Rook. It's good to know others will jump right into the fray with you.

[Delirium]

the Knights have been outnumbered by the Bish and the Rooks.

Frankly, that is true most of the time. In the past, I used to switch to the lowest country but now, I can generally stick to the Knights since they tend to stay low overall.

In response to Snuggie's picture, I'd like to see 'Zone ENY' implemented for just that reason.

[kvuo75]

Frankly, that is true most of the time. In the past, I used to switch to the lowest country but now, I can generally stick to the Knights since they tend to stay low overall.

not this time of day.. in fact right now, they outnumber the each other side by 30

[dallash]

I have been a Bish since day one. It does seem that we win a bit more than our fair share if maps, but maybe that's a bit of myopia from only looking from one side.
I do know that more often than not when I log in at 6:00-7:30am CDT, I hear all the Bishes complaining about ENY because we have numerical superiority. We are often unable to up P51Ds or Lancasters for long periods of time in the morning. So in that respect, ENY is doing its job, I guess.

[Dragon Tamer]

The issue doesn't seem to be the numbers, it's the groups. To me it sounds like the following: a new player joins and is thrown into a random country. He flies with them a while and two things will happen.

a) His fighting style will begin to reflect the dominint fighting style of his country.
b) He moves to a country that fits his fighting style.

My squad has flown for the nits (bish as well but that was long before I joined). The nits seem to enjoy the furball, not really too focused on objectives. The can be coaxed into an objective if a clear mission is put together with someone who has a good rep.

So instead of trying to balance the numbers, balance the skill. Maybe a few squads from each country can be encouraged to switch sides for a tour or two. My squad would love to have a few nits fly with them on a mission because of the typical style of base taking. The could tag along until we reach the objective, then they could break and to what they do best... cap the field.

As for the bish cross overs... we could just send them to a base as a distraction or something...

[BiPoLaR]

Frankly, that is true most of the time. In the past, I used to switch to the lowest country but now, I can generally stick to the Knights since they tend to stay low overall.

In response to Snuggie's picture, I'd like to see 'Zone ENY' implemented for just that reason.

Del, we've been preaching zone ENY for years. Doubt that will ever happen.

[EsmeII]

I think a lot of what's been said about styles of play on various sides rings true - at least insofar as descriptions of how Knights tend to play (never having flown Bish or Rook, I can't comment on their play directly). For me, as a buff pilot, I just can't take MA play too seriously (pin-pointing nearly every damned thing - sheesh!) and so I tend, not unreasonably, to fly sorties I am likely to enjoy, which means long strat raids (which don't seem to have any great effect on the overall game, despite what one would expect hitting strats to accomplish), or flattening towns, or ocean patrol to find enemy Cvs so others can kill them (which is highly effective but completely unrewarded in-game). I've also flown LW in scenario games (several years ago) for most of my virtual combat career, so fighting against the odds feels comfy to me.  Do I care that us Knights lose a lot? Yes. Do I care more about having fun sorties as a buffer? Much more, yes.   That said, whether or not a better game balance between buffs and fighters would affect which of the three sides got stomped on most is debatable.  

<S> Esme


  

[bozon]

There are no different styles or strategy to the countries. The differences are purely due to a few individuals or squadrons that organize missions and swarm bases. If your playing hours coincide with some bish large squadron or missions organizers, then it will seem like the bish have some strategy and capture bases all the time. Two hours later, or on a different day of the week, the knight base-taking squadron or mission planners log in and shift the land-grab towards the knight advantage.

Even more, it seems like much of the base taking is done from the ground these days, so furballers, bombers, tool shedders make much less of a difference than a few GV groups that are focused on taking bases. GVs are invisible on the map, so you have no idea what is going on with the global ground war unless you start spawning in GVs in various locations.
See my suggestion for GV sector bars:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,346273.0.html

I much prefer to be on the receiving end of the hords - at least there are some reds to shoot at. We at ~loose deuce~ love the TWC guys <S>. The kill messages spam that we generate after their missions make us dweebs look good. When they or their likes are not on, we look with envy at the red bars between the bish & knits while we race 15 other rooks to kill the single bandit that entered our airspace.

[Bruv119]

these discussions usually come about when a country loyal player feels like everything is unfair.  If you take a chill pill and swap teams for a bit you'll soon see everyone is pretty much the same. 

Last time we were on Knights I was quite happy with the responses and base captures we managed to pull off during the day.   This was just me and a few others getting some teamwork going from random countrymen.  Quality over quantity will win every time and I would suggest that if you really like capturing stuff or winning the war you find yourself a bunch of like minded players to enjoy it with.

AH is a multiplayer game and your not going to be able to change it alone.

[Tank-Ace]

Last time we were on Knights I was quite happy with the responses and base captures we managed to pull off during the day.   This was just me and a few others getting some teamwork going from random countrymen.  Quality over quantity will win every time and I would suggest that if you really like capturing stuff or winning the war you find yourself a bunch of like minded players to enjoy it with.

Lolz....

[Karnak]

Quality over quantity will win every time

Joseph Stalin said:
Quantity has a quality all its own.

The results on the Eastern Front in WWII suggest your claim is not entirely accurate.

[SPKmes]

I have been bouncing around doing an OE since the last few months of last year...just following the lower numbers..thinking this would be a safe bet to find big red dars... this has not been true for many jumps...the low numbers are making the biggest dar..
There is a definite Ebb and flo of numbers change... and this is usually about a 2-3 hr roll..... so if you jump on at the same time every day it may seem like one side is always out numbered.... try jump on an hour before or after your normal game play time if you can... you might soon see a difference.

During my OE it is with out surprise that I found all sides horde.... it is just how they do it... rook and bish are very similar when it comes to hording however most ( not all) rook have a little style to it... not just ram, bam, slam ...
knits are slow moving...they take time to consider the options...many times they decide when it is too late.... but they too horde...and to be honest...when they do they are the worst type of horder.... they bite, scratch, pull hair, drop any and every structure and just plan and simply mob the place and they are in a constant roll... especially on a CV.. I never knew cv's could hold that many planes  ...
The biggest difference I think between the sides is the number of leaders...not armchair generals...just the guys who have a following, the ones who say hey I'm doing this come and get some with me...... Knits have less of these people which is why they seem to be always getting hammered...but get the few guys on and that all changes and the knits roll harder and faster than both rook and bish combined..

This is just things I have noticed ... and may not be what others notice...but then it would be a boring world if everyone saw it the same way..

[coombz]

There are no different styles or strategy to the countries.

Quoted for truth

This thread is pretty hilarious in places

[Squire]

I sense a disturbance in the Schwarz.

[BaldEagl]

I sense a disturbance in the Schwarz.

It's fallen and it can't get up?  It needs a life alert!