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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #120 on: April 25, 2013, 02:31:37 PM »
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #121 on: April 25, 2013, 02:46:52 PM »
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #122 on: April 25, 2013, 03:08:15 PM »
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #123 on: April 25, 2013, 03:10:46 PM »
How many years ago was this?


2 years ago? I had the benifet of better skins.
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #124 on: April 25, 2013, 08:53:06 PM »


I find the A5 to be a very capable plane as long as I don't ask it to do too much... which I often do.   :o

And thats really part of the trick in all the 190's


BTW. Personally I think the F4's are more easy mode then the pony. but not quite as much easy mode then the spit or Niki
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #125 on: April 25, 2013, 08:56:19 PM »
Triton was right somewhere: a 190 vs 190 duel is pretty much the same as a ki84 vs ki84 one. They handle the same near the stall - the main difference is, things just happen slower in the german bird.

Cept that the 84 turns much better and loops much better
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #126 on: April 25, 2013, 09:58:09 PM »
Mossy = Extremely gunnery

Pony = Extremely easy to keep E advantage

Spitfire = All around easy everything

K4 = Very good climb rate

Brewster= Turning buff said

I consider all these planes and many more easy mode, the ones above have their reasons. Rides can be hard to fly when you take them out of their envelope....fly a 152 on the deck, not easy mode at all. Only ones that I call easy mode anyway they are flown are Spit 16s and the Brewster(including comparable aircraft, not all but a few of them)
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #127 on: April 25, 2013, 10:01:20 PM »
I take the 84 up much more than the Spixteen for the simple fact that it has more ammo and won't fall apart if someone looks at it the wrong way.  

And since this thread is getting a little boring I'll throw this out there:  I'd take a K4 before the Spit 16.

Why?

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Range 16
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Roll 16
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The biggest factor going for the K4 is speed.  If you are going to weight combat attributes, speed is undeniably the "heavyweight champ."  This is the biggest reason a 262 carries the highest fighter perk cost.  Would the Pony be 5ENY if it did 340 on the deck? Lol.  Speed allows you to choose the time and place, ensuring it is to your benefit.  Speed alone probably determines "cause of death" for nearly half of deaths in the MA.  The K4 not only has a huge speed advantage on the Spit initially, after 5 minutes, the Spit is going to clock in at maybe 320 on the deck while the K4 is still humming along at 370 another 4 minutes!  Turn is a poor sub for either speed or climb and you have to be fairly slow for it to matter.  (Curve speed/sustained turn) The K4 does enough things almost as well as the Spit while doing a great deal more of the things that will get you home.  K/D this month 1.46/1.15 in favor of the K4.  Many would say this is mostly a function of pilot skill and they'd be right.  (The D-25 is leading the way at 1.82 :D) But the fact is that when people look at aircraft they generally fixate on only half the equation-killing.  The other side of the equation is deaths.  Americans are good at only seeing half of equations.  Calories in vs calories out is one that comes to mind... While it may be a little easier to kill in a Spit (IF the enemy sticks around), it is MUCH harder to kill a K4 if he doesn't want you to.  




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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #128 on: April 25, 2013, 10:21:06 PM »
While it may be a little easier to kill in a Spit (IF the enemy sticks around), it is MUCH harder to kill a K4 if he doesn't want you to.

That is what I was refering to when I commented about a player who has just learned enough to use climb and speed.  He may not be killing people a lot, but he will be living to get a lot more practice at killing than if he were in a P-40E or Me410.  A player just getting his legs under him and trying to use those two spends a lot of time flying to the fight only to die very rapidly, not getting much actual combat practice.  The Bf109K-4 buys you the ability to reset and try again, hence being comparatively easy mode.
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #129 on: April 25, 2013, 11:14:23 PM »
That is what I was refering to when I commented about a player who has just learned enough to use climb and speed.  He may not be killing people a lot, but he will be living to get a lot more practice at killing than if he were in a P-40E or Me410.  A player just getting his legs under him and trying to use those two spends a lot of time flying to the fight only to die very rapidly, not getting much actual combat practice.  The Bf109K-4 buys you the ability to reset and try again, hence being comparatively easy mode.

Ok, is a good secondary learning aircraft. I'll give you that.

But it's easier to be EFFECTIVE in the spit. And I still don't think you've gotten to what easy mode truly is.
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #130 on: April 25, 2013, 11:50:06 PM »
But still only half the equation...
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #131 on: April 25, 2013, 11:52:17 PM »
So we can all agree...the K4 is awesome!

(on a side note I find the K4 harder to fly than the 4hog which is perked.)
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #132 on: April 26, 2013, 02:51:13 AM »
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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #133 on: April 26, 2013, 06:31:12 AM »
I will be glad when this thread ends.  It seems to spawn rashes of K4s.  They were everywhere last night.  Every time I saw one they were going straight up. :O

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Re: K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage
« Reply #134 on: April 26, 2013, 07:03:23 AM »
I will be glad when this thread ends.  It seems to spawn rashes of K4s.  They were everywhere last night.  Every time I saw one they were going straight up. :O
This thread is proving the point that it is making all by itself...  :lol
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