My take on game graphics

[Babalonian]

I was agreeing with Arlo....
the Little dogs made me laugh....


 













 

Whatever you're smokin', pass to the left.

[BluBerry]

i dont worry about the gfx on this game because just like zack i have a decent cpu and can run on max gfx at 60fps 

Honestly tho everything on max on a big screen it looks sweeeet!

 

The FPS topic is a lengthy one.. there is a common misconception that the human eye can't see anything past 30FPS. In reality the human eye can detect movement far past 200 FPS, but that's for another time regarding Blur/Motion.

30 FPS for a game is viewed as acceptable because that's normally a "steady range" that most gamers can achieve.

60 FPS really means nothing if you can't hold it steady. If you fly around alone holding 60FPS and then enter a furball and are constantly jumping between 25 and 60 that's not a good thing.

I remember reading a long time ago that Hollywood movies are normally 27FPS, because with such little strain on the human eye, we see 27fps as being very smooth.

Running 500+ FPS, 60 FPS or even a steady 30 really all look the same with how the majority of us build/run our systems and the game of AH2.

Running extreme FPS is actually something that has little to no benefit especially with the various Hz of monitors.

Hz is the rate at which the hardware in the monitor is refreshing the display. They are two independent functions, and you will see a difference in animation quality with more FPS.

There is a point with FPS though where the human visual pathways become saturated, you can still perceive a difference in quality but you've hit the point of diminishing returns.

In the gaming world/AH2 world, 30 FPS is just fine performance and graphic wise. I don't play with V-sync for personal reasons, none however that involve AH2. 

[Ninthmessiah]

Wow...  people think that AH graphics are good???   

I mean I get that there are limitations to what hitech can do, but call a duck a duck.  AH graphics look dated.  That doesn't mean the game isn't fun, nor does it mean better eye candy would make the game more fun.  But tell it how it is.  I would not describe AH graphics in a positive light.

I've turned everything to max.  It's a marginal visual improvement for a huge hit in frames.  I have no idea wth bump mapping my own plane full-updates does except kill the lighting effects and drop me down to 20 frames.  My plane looks better with that box unchecked.  I can see more light reflections that way.  Is this the same for other people?  Do I need to post a screen?  Does anyone enable bump my plane full-updates and see a visual improvement?

Compare the two



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Bump mapping the buildings just makes the concrete look brighter, which actually gives an advantage to some folks bombing GVs.  Cockpit shadows are also unchecked, they look all jaggy and pixelated.  They're just not good. 

Bring the clouds back.

[Ninthmessiah]

Oh and I looked at some screenies of that DCS A-10C Warthog game...  It doesn't look much better than AH.  Guess that's the standard in flight sims.  Sad Panda.

[BluBerry]

Wow...  people think that AH graphics are good???   

My thoughts exactly.

[Oldman731]

The longer you play flight sims the less you care about graphics.

Odd, but true.

OTOH, it seems to me that the oldtimers are always the first ones trying to get better graphics performance.  Comes from years tweaking systems to get what we now take for granted, I suppose.

- oldman

[zack1234]

Well, then turn evrything off.

 

I can run Rise of Flight full as well

I have played other flight sims and AH graphics are very nice.

TrackIr is awesome



my pc is awesome

[Gman]

I really don't think HTC can push the envelope much further graphics wise without a lot of players taking a huge performance hit.

I has flying today on the system I built for my bro-in law, it's almost as fast as mine, but has a 3820, 2 680GTX 4gb in SLI, and a 144hz Asus Gaming 120hz+ monitor.  Over tank town, with track ir 5 running, I could look around at take off and see around 85fps, and up to 144 fps when looking up once over 5k or so.

Once over tank town though......I had about 10 friendly air cons, maybe a dozen red guys within 6k, and all the tanks on the ground.  When I got down to the deck over the tank town, I was down into the high 30's, and it felt really notchy.  Of course, once away from that action it's back to normal, but my point is that you have to be careful when considering graphics upgrades on the game's side, as even with hardware that's right at the top end, AH2 can still bring these systems to their knees in worst case scenarios. 

[Noir]

modern post processing effects would go a long way to improve graphics imo. Maybe some black and white filters at times with some noise like an old movie. I'm thinking left for dead 2

[zack1234]

I never drop below 60 fps even in a furball?
And your SLI?

[The Fury]

ok so yes i said i like the graphics in ah2 i never said they couldnt be improved upon, i like the current engine because i can get 60 fps with v-sync on even during furballs and it stays there were as say a game with gfx like planetside 2 once the big fights start happening it starts to take a more and more demanding rig to produce the same results.

I realize we cannot exactly afford to lose the player base we have now, by updating AH2 with extensively better graphics, but maybe if they slowly make improvements as it appears they are, then the majority of the player base can slowly upgrade their computers to keep up, and not be hurt to bad in the pocket book either.

I agree with this 

[pervert]

ok so yes i said i like the graphics in ah2 i never said they couldnt be improved upon, i like the current engine because i can get 60 fps with v-sync on even during furballs and it stays there were as say a game with gfx like planetside 2 once the big fights start happening it starts to take a more and more demanding rig to produce the same results.
 

I think thats the reasons the graphics are like they are, I know something like war thunder is limited in what it can handle at the same time. IL2 was a nightmare once too many things started happening at once 

People thought IL2's fm was realistic because the graphics were good  it was a load of old balls for a flight model

[Pand]

I wouldn't mind seeing some game play updates to keep things fresh. Better visuals wouldn't hurt though.

[The Fugitive]

I wouldn't mind seeing some game play updates to keep things fresh. Better visuals wouldn't hurt though.

What kind of "game play" updates would you like to see?

[R 105]

The longer you play flight sims the less you care about graphics. I would be interested to know just how many of us old timers doesn't have his graphics settings down to the minimum.
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I got everything turned off I can turn off just to have a frame rate in the teens. I could care less about graphics I only care about the game play and how the tanks and planes operate. To me the rest of the map looks like a drunken 5 year old kids finger painting.