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Offline HornetUK

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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #75 on: April 14, 2013, 01:00:40 PM »
It would just be spreadsheet that you would have to create with a certain formulary then you would enter heading alt the air speeds at certain alts and you may have to factor in the alt of the target
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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #76 on: April 14, 2013, 01:35:43 PM »
FYI, all:
The bomb sight is supposed to correct for the wind if calibrated correctly.

It sounds like there is  a bug that needs to be addressed.

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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2013, 04:28:42 PM »
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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2013, 06:30:36 PM »
   I've been praying for the wnd to return.  :pray

  I've been through the old bomb site which was much harder to use. This is a welcome change. Bombing is a tough adventure from takeoff to target. Unescorted bombers have a low life expectantcy in the MA these days. This  may cause the usage of more fighter bombers.

                Hmm I think we need rain this bomber gig is too easy.  :rock










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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #80 on: April 15, 2013, 08:15:05 PM »
I've been doing this hi-alt and med alt bombing for quite a few years, I could understand putting in some error percentage, but cmon hitech. Don't make it impossible.

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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #81 on: April 15, 2013, 08:52:54 PM »
  During the weekdays, I fly almost exclusively heavy Lancs. I use them to target the bases that the hordes are upping from. Let's get real here, this is a cartoon flight sim. If I am not at 22K, I am not making it to target, then if I have to start adjusting runs based on wind direction, may take 3 passes to hit your targets. Again, highly unlikely at that altitude once your position is known, dead! I was half a base off on my targeting last night. There is no point in taking the time to climb out to that alt. and distance any longer. You simply will not survive a bomb run much lower than 20k as well as even make it to target. I used to be able to come in at 18k, almost never happens, needing to be at least 22k just to get to target. And at 22k, those bombs do not have lasers. You better know what you are doing and no guarantee.
 
  Been here around 9 years, just wiped out my fun. I fly heavy 38's with a squad on Saturday nights, but thinking I need to find something else if this is not worked out quickly. I know my $15 bucks a month ain't woth squat nor is my opinion, but that is my opinion. We gonna get real like this, how about advanced radar to pick up the mass raids, get's silly at a point. How much is enough for realism? Taking the high altitude bombers out of the game takes an element out. 10k-15k bombers are just easy targets. I enjoyed the challenge of trying to get in above 20K. Was not easy.

  Enough crying here. Good luck on both sides of this issue men. Both sides have valid points. Been fun. May or may not be around. Can't bomb any longer, need to find a new game. Will see how it goes.

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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #82 on: April 15, 2013, 09:31:10 PM »
thanks for fixing it!

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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #83 on: May 16, 2013, 11:45:24 PM »
I didn't do any bomb runs last night, but I did look at the gauges/info about the wind on the clipboard. It gives you the heading the speed and the cross wind data. It would seem to me that some enterprising pilot (read person with out a life  :D ) will soon have a chart listing how much you lead or offset your drop going by that data. It looks like it is just a matter of figuring how how to plug in the data.

Any one good at building apps?   :noid

I remember reading about a WWII real life B-17 pilot ferrying same across the Atlantic.  He said what kept him awake and occupied his mind doing trig calculations in his head.

I have been away from the game about 3 major updates and notice in Late War, how I used to level bomb is not currently working.  I have noticed it takes at least twice as long moving the bombing reticule as before.  I used to be pretty good at level bombing.

I am just browsing the archives for tips.

I do not remember the level bombing how-to technique that was used in Axis vs Allies.  I guess I need a refresher tutorial in the training arena.

My bombers of choice are the B-24 and B-17.  Lately been using the B-26.
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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #84 on: May 16, 2013, 11:54:45 PM »
 During the weekdays, I fly almost exclusively heavy Lancs. I use them to target the bases that the hordes are upping from. Let's get real here, this is a cartoon flight sim. If I am not at 22K, I am not making it to target, then if I have to start adjusting runs based on wind direction, may take 3 passes to hit your targets. Again, highly unlikely at that altitude once your position is known, dead! I was half a base off on my targeting last night. There is no point in taking the time to climb out to that alt. and distance any longer. You simply will not survive a bomb run much lower than 20k as well as even make it to target. I used to be able to come in at 18k, almost never happens, needing to be at least 22k just to get to target. And at 22k, those bombs do not have lasers. You better know what you are doing and no guarantee.
  
  Been here around 9 years, just wiped out my fun. I fly heavy 38's with a squad on Saturday nights, but thinking I need to find something else if this is not worked out quickly. I know my $15 bucks a month ain't woth squat nor is my opinion, but that is my opinion. We gonna get real like this, how about advanced radar to pick up the mass raids, get's silly at a point. How much is enough for realism? Taking the high altitude bombers out of the game takes an element out. 10k-15k bombers are just easy targets. I enjoyed the challenge of trying to get in above 20K. Was not easy.

  Enough crying here. Good luck on both sides of this issue men. Both sides have valid points. Been fun. May or may not be around. Can't bomb any longer, need to find a new game. Will see how it goes.

DCS is quite fun and I still play it, very realistic, especially the helicopters, but there is no central server and the player numbers are lean.  I hope USA stays friendly with Russia.  A leave of absence is worthwhile to realize I missed Aces High even if only gv'ing and killing ships.  

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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #85 on: May 17, 2013, 12:16:26 AM »
Right now, seems more like our experiences over Japan...dropping from mid teens has your bombs being blown 4 different (3?) at double digit speeds before hitting ground.....not sure how you could calculate for that. My experience was missing target by half the width of the base. I'm thinking there's zero wind under 10k tho. I can't imagine people bothering with B29's,  Mebbe they could tweak the site so you had to manually input for the wind direction/speed (how did Nordens do it?)

I think it was General Curtis LeMay (spelling may be off) that was in charge of the late WWII sorties over Japan.  I remember that 80,000 people per sortie were killed in fire-bombing of cities and the fire-storm effect of mass casualties before the A-Bombs were dropped.  The houses were basically paper.  How accurate does a fire-bombing attack have to be?

I have noticed real life aviation weather reports of various levels of wind direction and speed, not just one wind direction and speed.  Could be setup worse.

Maybe HiTech has changed how bombing is done since this thread's bombing topic.  I have played just a few times the past few weeks since coming back on-board.