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Offline gyrene81

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 04:19:25 PM »
The fact that he was killed by 2 men for no reason is the crime here. Not that they were screaming Allahu akhbar.
that would be true if they weren't chanting that mess...
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 05:08:18 PM »
that would be true if they weren't chanting that mess...

do you know what it means and how it's normally used?


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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2013, 05:56:29 PM »
The fact that he was killed by 2 men for no reason is the crime here. Not that they were screaming Allahu akhbar.

Not quite the point, I'd say. No, being Muslim isn't a crime, nor is screaming "god is greater" at the top of your lungs, if thats what you wish. But there will be social backlash, and understandably so.


Now I'm not defending the West's attempt at ironically spreading democracy at gun-point, but the reactions aren't unexpected.
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You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2013, 06:06:45 PM »
do you know what it means and how it's normally used?


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yes, and what's your point?
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2013, 06:22:41 PM »
Zack, you are AWESOMELY British!

Is that a word, awesomely?

 it is now.  :aok
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2013, 06:27:08 PM »
yes, and what's your point?

what is yours.   

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2013, 06:44:41 PM »
@tank ace  This is akin to angry young men using some vague political justification to sanctify their use of violence to avenge their own feelings of personal inadequacy.  Modern American history provides plenty of similar examples, which I won't insult your intelligence by reciting.

@RTHolmes.  Here's the statement of the British Muslim Council

"This is a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this unreservedly. Our thoughts are with the victim and his family. We understand the victim is a serving member of the Armed Forces.  Muslims have long served in this country’s Armed Forces, proudly and with honour. This attack on a member of the Armed Forces is dishonourable, and no cause justifies this murder."

Don't get me wrong.  I'm a soldier, I had to write my friends overseas to find out if I knew the victim.  This was terrorism, and I want the perpetrators locked up permanently and I think the substantial evidence already available supports that.

However, I categorically stand up for my country and the western way of life in general because it is founded on justice.  Not mob rule.  Not racism.  Not social backlash.  Justice.

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2013, 06:50:22 PM »
"...and they will kill you...thinking they are doing my will."

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2013, 07:05:43 PM »
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2013, 07:17:09 PM »
Oh boy.......... :bhead :bolt:
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2013, 07:45:55 PM »
The fact that he was killed by 2 men for no reason is the crime here. Not that they were screaming Allahu akhbar.

Other than its patently obvious that the crime was committed because of what they were screaming :bhead
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2013, 07:55:10 PM »
One of those two guys was ranting on about how women and children "in our lands" (his words) had to see violence.

From his accent, I'd guess "his lands" were somewhere very close to London.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2013, 08:15:52 PM »
One of those two guys was ranting on about how women and children "in our lands" (his words) had to see violence.

From his accent, I'd guess "his lands" were somewhere very close to London.
Like this woman?


As for his "lands"
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2013, 09:52:20 PM »
Like this woman?


As for his "lands"
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2013, 09:55:05 PM »
what is yours.   

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my point was obvious...read it again. or do i need to bring out the crayons?
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