Opinions of the A8

[Tank-Ace]

IMO, it's not worth it. High drag, less ammunition, convergence issues, weight gain....


And all for some more firepower that isn't necessary. If your issue is a low volume of fire messing with your head,  then there is reason. It's just not as beneficial taken all in all.

[Butcher]

IMO, it's not worth it. High drag, less ammunition, convergence issues, weight gain....


And all for some more firepower that isn't necessary. If your issue is a low volume of fire messing with your head,  then there is reason. It's just not as beneficial taken all in all.

Its alright to take gondolas, in a sense if you can make every snapshot count and get out of danger then they are acceptable. I've flown many times in a 109 in a furball with gondolas. However if you get caught, i.e co-alt spitfire, you are toast as the gondolas were made to give 109s extra firepower against bombers - pretty much taking away all advantages a 109 has against the fighters it was up against.

It has its advantages and disadvantages - overall its not worth it in the long run if you want to learn the 109 - if not improve your aim, gondolas give to much false hope.

[SmokinLoon]

When I take a 109 up, the gondolas only accompany me if I'm hunting bombers or pounding dirt.  Otherwise, the 109's dance a lot better without the gondolas in a knife fight.

[Triton28]

30mm A8 gun package just seems wrong to me.  Not historically speaking... it just isn't effective for me.  I think the ability to fire all 3 gun types independently would help tremendously. 

I'm not a 190 fan really, but I am starting to like the 152 in the right situations.

[Tank-Ace]

I agree, at least where historical. The biggest issue for me is the 410's MK 103s.

[morfiend]

30mm A8 gun package just seems wrong to me.  Not historically speaking... it just isn't effective for me.  I think the ability to fire all 3 gun types independently would help tremendously. 

    Actually the FW's had the mg's and inboard guns on 1 trigger and the outboard guns on another.  This is how I wish HTC had it modeled, primary to fire mg and 20mm secondary to fire outboard guns!


   

 PS: I don't recall offhand how the 410 was setup but I do remember they added a firring button for certain loadouts , maybe the rockets.

[Triton28]

    Actually the FW's had the mg's and inboard guns on 1 trigger and the outboard guns on another.  This is how I wish HTC had it modeled, primary to fire mg and 20mm secondary to fire outboard guns!


   

 PS: I don't recall offhand how the 410 was setup but I do remember they added a firring button for certain loadouts , maybe the rockets.

I think the 410 is similar when all those gun types are mixed... I'm not certain though.

I just prefer to shoot 30's on their own so I can do a specific type of fussing when I miss.   

[Franz Von Werra]

^^^ that!

Typhoons don't have the extra 13mm machine guns, so they can have two convergence settings for 20mms... close and far, each fired separately.
190s get a penalty for having extra 13mm machine guns! boo...

Extra trigger to fire all three separately...
or the ability to pair the inner 20mms with the 13mm mgs on the first trigger,  so we would have the outer 20mms (or outer 30mms) fired on the separate second trigger...?

[Zacherof]

That would be cool
+1

[Megalodon]

I think the ability to fire all 3 gun types independently would help tremendously. 

This^^

[SmokinLoon]

This^^

Didnt think that was historically accurate.  The 190x had 2 triggers: primary and secondary???

[mthrockmor]

If you are hunting buffs either the A8 or 152. If you want to mess with fighters the A5. If you aren't sure, which may cause you to run like h***, the Dora.

The 152 is faster and flies better up high than the A8. The A8 has better guns than the 152, without a doubt flies fast enough and overall a great buff killer. As for which bird will do better when you get jumped by the escorts, I'll leave that to the aficionados. I believe the A8 is more robust and will take damage better than the 152. She also has a better roll rate, and I sense handles compression much better than the 152. With that long tail and nose the 152 seems as stick at high speeds as the 109 does. The A8 will let you tear her wings off in high speed. Also, no nasty tail/slide stall though I learned how to get out of that pretty rapidly. Sadly, in one sortie I had to get out of that tail/slide stall twice!

I don't seek out buffs, but instead feast on their escorts. My A5 is a pretty sexy bird that does everything I ask of her.

Boo

[Slade]

What is more responsive: 190A8 with smallest gun pkg (20mm\13mm) or 190F8?

Thanks.  

[Tank-Ace]

190A8.  The F8 is uparmored over the base A8, and I think just carries a bit more in the way of equipment as well.

[Franz Von Werra]

ThHistorically, 190s pwnt alle das allied arse, if pilot wasn't a noob replacement!
A russian ace, in interview said that "because he is patriotic, he has to say la was better."
Yeah I need to find the article.

In Air Warrior 2 and 3, they had 190a4, a6, a8, d9.
A6 wasn't the fastest plane, but it was faster than most, but it could turn fite with the best of them at any speed.
A6 had 13mm's on nose, 20mm's in wings near engine, and no outer guns.
This was the late war fast yet could turn n burn jack of all trades 190, was my favorite...

D9 was about same as here, a very fast(est) brick.
A8 was the bomber interceptor

Wikipedia "list of flying aces ww2"
Not all of those guys were 109 pilots.

Walter Nowotny for example, choir boy doing God's work, pwning!
He was a fighter, his scores / flights reflect.
Dead at only 23yrs old, in a 262 after kicking arse and taking names!
He took a year off to be a trainer...
Was highest scorer at his peek at the time.
I think hans joachim had him beat for kills in a day... not sure.

Gunther Rall said "but the serious kills in a day were done by the 190"

The triggers, I heard, for a8, were nose 13s and inner 20s on same trigger, is what I've heard...