Author Topic: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?  (Read 1976 times)

Offline ghi

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2669
why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« on: June 06, 2013, 10:13:14 AM »
The Comets are always disabled o this map, any special reasons? :headscratch: I want to smoke juicy strat porkers   :lol

Offline Daddkev

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1727
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2013, 12:06:44 PM »
 :huh :huh Me too!  :devil :devil :mad: :mad: :devil :devil :mad: :mad: :devil :devil
God Bless America
Go tell Momm, im flying! and make me a sandwich !
EvilKev

2012 68KO Cup 1st Place finisher

Offline Schen

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 314
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2013, 12:19:43 PM »
+1  :cheers:
"Fighting in the air is not sport. It is scientific murder"
           Captain Edward V. 'Eddie' Rickenbacker


   ---Committing scientific murder since tour 157---
                       :devil

Offline Pyro

  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 4020
      • http://www.hitechcreations.com
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2013, 01:44:35 PM »
No reason, it's fixed now.

Offline ghi

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2669
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2013, 02:00:48 PM »
Thx!  :cheers:

Offline Citabria

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5149
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2013, 02:44:15 PM »
wtg there were p47M's and Ta152's and spit14s capping strats for all sides.

bombers were actually hitting strats and not avoiding the place like the plague.

THE REAL PROBLEM WAS STRATS WERE HIT ON BISHLAND HORDE SIDE.

bish ammo and troops were porked and therefore to stop the bish horde rooks were hitting bish strat and bish fields to disable ordnance and troops at vfields because no one seems to be abel to disable 15 barracks spread out across the airfields.

so bish horde afetr getting 20% knits bases wanted to takeover rookland.

so using shear horde numbers bish not only brought up their strat complex to 100% twice in about 45 min (it was trashed and afetr they supplied it it was hit again to about 50% on ammo factory) and they resupplied it again.

then they resupplied their desired airbase and then rolled their red cloud horde to take the base and crush any defenders that might happen to try to stop their Missiun.

rooks upped a large BOMBER MISSION TO BISH STRAT right before Ghi the horde ringleader whined about no 163s. that mission climbed for an hour to get to alt and brought fighter escort.

before any of them got within 50 miles of bish strats Ghi and his horde upped a mass of 163s and DESTROYED THE ENTIRE FORCE BEFORE IT EVEN #@!# REACHED THE CITY.


so I get it HTC DOES NOT LIKE BOMBER MISSIONS HITTING STRATEGIC TARGETS SO THEY ENABLE 163 to destroy them and if thats not enough any damage the BOMBER MISSION DOES CAN BE RESUPPLIED IN UNDER 15 MINUTES BY A HORDE of C47s MAKING IT ALL POINTLESS.

no one sees a problem with what the 163 is capable of doing and what unlimited amounts of supplies can do to the bomber/strat games balance?

this is all good right?

no problem here?

we dont want bomber missions right? bombers bad dont fly them dont hit strats
Fester was my in game name until September 2013

Offline Citabria

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5149
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2013, 02:48:09 PM »
why is the strat complex resuppliable now anyway? it didnt use to be.

if bomber shave to face 163s they shouldnt have to watch an army of goons resupply the strats before they can get out of the sector.
Fester was my in game name until September 2013

Offline Tinkles

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1501
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2013, 03:04:14 PM »
why is the strat complex resuppliable now anyway? it didnt use to be.

if bomber shave to face 163s they shouldnt have to watch an army of goons resupply the strats before they can get out of the sector.

I know what you mean.  You fly 90 mins + to get to target, if you manage to dodge the 163s and other cons and manage to hit your target and survive to fly back a minimum of 30+ more mins to land (if you make it).  To have your work undone in less than say.. 15-20 mins (if there are only 2-5 resupplying).


My suggestions on how HTC could fix this would be...

Limiting how many C47s/M3s (some strats have V-bases next to them), can up from that base within a given period of time.

Time could be 10 minutes, or 15-20 minutes.  How many planes could up could be 3-5 or 8-10 I don't know  :headscratch:   

So if 5 people took off with c47s (or m3s), then no more cargo-type vehicles/planes could 'take-off' for the next 10-20 mins.  (Or until those who took off landed/bailed, then the que would open for others to participate).  That way we don't get "Hordes" of resuppliers.

But I think this needs to be looked at, because it isn't fair to the bomber pilots who are willing to sacrifice their time ( and some their perks) to cripple the enemies stronghold, to only have it resupplied in a short amount of time.


It would benefit the enemy bombers so that they can benefit from their hard work, and give their country more time to take advantage of this opportunity.

Also, it would help the defending country no less, they just wouldn't be able to get their strats resupplied as quickly, but it wouldn't cripple them either.


Just my opinion.

Respectively,

Tinkles

 :salute
If we have something to show we will & do post shots, if we have nothing new to show we don't.
HiTech
Adapt , Improvise, Overcome. ~ HiTech
Be a man and shoot me in the back ~ Morfiend

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23888
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2013, 03:10:00 PM »
To have your work undone in less than say.. 15-20 mins (if there are only 2-5 resupplying).


This is impossible. To make your strat bombing undone in 15-20 minutes it takes a massive horde effort. 2-5 players simply can't pull it off.

Every strat building has a downtime of 180 minutes. Every drop of supplies reduces that by 4 minutes only. Two players can make ~3 supply runs each in 20 minutes, for an additional dt reduction of 24 minutes. So after 20 minutes there are still 136 minutes downtime left.
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

Offline palef

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2212
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2013, 03:13:42 PM »
Shhhhh, stop it Snailman, you're denting their hyperbole!
Retired

Offline Citabria

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5149
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2013, 03:14:19 PM »
snailman numbers dont matter to the bish horde they have enough numbers to resupply the whole thing nearly isntantly.

they did it twice before the bombers that hit it even landed.

LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN..

BISH COMPLETELY REMOVED 180MIN DOWNTIME USING MASS NUMBERS TWICE IN UNDER 45 MINUTES.

do youunderstand the balance problem snail?

you see how there is no "ENY" or balancing limit to strats and resupply?

do you see why in the past two hours since pyro enabled 163s the strats on all 3 sides have stopped blinking?
Fester was my in game name until September 2013

Offline Eric19

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 591
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2013, 03:21:33 PM »
there is nothing wrong with the way strats are resupped fester i think they should however up the amount of points you get for hitting the strats that would have an incentive for the buff driver to do it and I've seen both rook and knights resupp there strats in under an hour after it has almost been destroyed so its not just the bish you can't blame everything on the bish if your going to hit strats you have to have the nerve to know you WILL go against 163s
grow up and quit complaining
Proud member of the 91ST BG (H) The Ragged Irregulars

Offline Citabria

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5149
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2013, 03:26:41 PM »
then why is no one hitting the strats? surely the bombers will still climb for hours to have a chance to drop and fight 163s and resupply hordes right?

thats enough of a carrot on a stick?
Fester was my in game name until September 2013

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23888
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2013, 03:28:51 PM »
snailman numbers dont matter to the bish horde they have enough numbers to resupply the whole thing nearly isntantly.


I was just pointing out that specific error, nothing more. ;)
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

Offline Slate

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3242
Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 03:34:02 PM »
   I filmed the Bish resupplying the strats....................



  With all them at the strats it should be easy to take one of thier bases in 30 minutes.  :airplane:
I always wanted to fight an impossible battle against incredible odds.