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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #120 on: July 07, 2013, 05:31:03 PM »
I've only seen one MiG-17 by Skyraiders in the dogfights series. There were exactly two MiG-17 kills scored in the Vietnam War.

But yeh, as said I'd be very interested to know which one of these three gentlemen was icepac's dad...

hmm...

You are referring to 2 MiG-17 kills by Skyraiders only, correct?
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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #121 on: July 07, 2013, 05:36:32 PM »
You are referring to 2 MiG-17 kills by Skyraiders only, correct?

He is, he's referring to a comment icepac made saying his dad was the one that shot them down.

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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #122 on: July 07, 2013, 05:37:15 PM »
You are referring to 2 MiG-17 kills by Skyraiders only, correct?

Correct, it ("by Skyraiders") was in the sentence I had structured in my head but my hands didn't type it in for some reason. A lot of similar stuff going on as of late for me, starts to get on my nerves...

There are sources talking about third probable kill as well.
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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #123 on: July 08, 2013, 11:27:06 AM »
BTW, forgot to mention that in the MA icepac said that Mr. Clinton Johnson is his father.
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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #124 on: July 08, 2013, 02:31:36 PM »
Correct, it ("by Skyraiders") was in the sentence I had structured in my head but my hands didn't type it in for some reason. A lot of similar stuff going on as of late for me, starts to get on my nerves...

There are sources talking about third probable kill as well.

Two kills by Skyraiders tells me that two MiG pilots did something remarkably stupid to find themselves under those four cannons...
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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #125 on: July 08, 2013, 02:39:44 PM »
Two kills by Skyraiders tells me that two MiG pilots did something remarkably stupid to find themselves under those four cannons...

In one of the two cases, it was eight cannons to be exact. :D The MiG went head on with two Skyriders in tight line abreast...
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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #126 on: July 08, 2013, 03:33:51 PM »
So 2 a2a kills make it fighter. :rolleyes: There are many Fw190F aces with double digit a2a kills. Oberleutnant August Lamber claiming 116 Russian aircraft was the highest scoring Schlachtflieger.

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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #127 on: July 08, 2013, 05:17:19 PM »
Well I certainly don't think it's a fighter.
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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #128 on: July 08, 2013, 06:15:42 PM »
So 2 a2a kills make it fighter. :rolleyes: There are many Fw190F aces with double digit a2a kills. Oberleutnant August Lamber claiming 116 Russian aircraft was the highest scoring Schlachtflieger.

Wasn't the FW190F-8 considered a fighter bomber or was it classified as just an attack plane?

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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #129 on: July 09, 2013, 12:18:48 AM »
Wasn't the FW190F-8 considered a fighter bomber or was it classified as just an attack plane?

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IIRC, it was considered a Jagerbomber, since the F-8 specifications could be met with various Rüstsatz or Umrüst-Bausatz upgrades of the Fw 190 fighter airframe, and still had the performance, if not the handling, of a fighter.
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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #130 on: July 09, 2013, 12:36:53 AM »
In a quick count I got 158 air-to-air kills by Mosquito FB.Mk VIs in Europe during WWII.  It isn't single engined, but it was manifestly considered a fighter-bomber by the RAF, hence the "FB" tag.
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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #131 on: July 09, 2013, 01:48:39 AM »
IIRC, it was considered a Jagerbomber,

Which is pretty much the same thing as a fighter-bomber.

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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #132 on: July 09, 2013, 11:23:31 AM »
The 190 F-series is just a re-designation of specific factory conversion kits (Umrüstbausatz) to the A-series. The F-1 was earlier known as the A-4/U3, the F-2 and F-3 were the A-5/U3 and U17 respectively. F-4 to F-7 were not produced. The last F-series 190 produced was the F-9 that had the uprated engine of the A-9 and the new Ta 152 tail unit. 147 F-9s were built in January '45 and perhaps a few hundred more before VE-Day.
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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #133 on: July 09, 2013, 12:12:32 PM »
:airplane: Where are not we can all agree on which was the best "Fighter-Bomber", there has been some interesting replies to this question and I appreciate everyone replying, as I have certainly learned some things about other aircraft in this game and that really was the intent of the post!

We agree - the P-47D was the best single-engine FB of all time!  We being me, Discovery Channel (Wings), and the mouse in my pocket :D

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Re: Best Single Engine fighter-Bomber(Prop Driven)
« Reply #134 on: July 09, 2013, 08:02:30 PM »
There's one aspect that I don't think anyone has considered...

What contributes to the F4U-4 being the premier single engine fighter/bomber of WWII is its ability to operate from land or sea. That advantage is actually, huge.....
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