Seaplanes/Floatplanes/Flying Boats

[Arlo]

[Zacherof]

Quick!!!!
Turn the turret so they crash into the tower!

[matt]

Large Seaplanes (airfields & ports):

United Kingdom

Short S.25 Sunderland

Manufacturer: Short
Model: S.25 Sunderland Mk V
Crew: 9 - 11
Entered Service: 1938
Number Produced: 777
Engine: 4x Pratt & Whitney R-1830-90-B Twin Wasps, 895kW
Weights: 29480 kg / 64993 lb (take off), 16740 kg / 36906 lb (empty)
Dimensions: 34.38 m / 113 ft 10 in (wingspan), 26 m / 85 ft 4 in (length), 10.52 m / 35 ft 6 in (height), 156.72 mē / 1686.92 sq ft (wing area)
Performance: 343 km/h / 213 mph (max speed), 285 km/h / 178 mph (cruise speed), 5455 m / 17900 ft (ceiling), 4300 km / 2672 miles (range)
Armament: 2x .50 cal machine guns, 10x .30 cal machine guns, 2250 kg of bombs

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http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/short_sunderland.php

Japan

Kawanishi H6K "Mavis"

Manufacturer: Kawanishi
Model: H6K5
Crew: 10
Entered Service: 1938
Number Produced: 215
Engine: 4x Mitsubishi Kinsei-51, 975kW
Weights: 17500 kg / 38581 lb (take off), 12380 kg / 27293 lb (empty)
Dimensions: 40.0 m / 131 ft 3 in (wingspan), 25.63 m / 84 ft 1 in (length), 6.27 m / 21 ft 7 in (height), 170 mē / 1829.86 sq ft (wing area)
Performance: 380 km/h / 236 mph (max speed), 255 km/h / 158 mph (cruise speed), 9560 m / 31350 ft (ceiling), 4870 km / 3026 miles (range)
Armament: 1x 20 mm cannon, 4x 7.7 mm machine guns, 1000 kg of bombs or 2x 800 kg torpedos

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http://www.aviastar.org/air/japan/kawanishi_h6k.php

Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Manufacturer: Kawanishi
Model: H8K2
Crew: 9
Entered Service: 1942
Number Produced: 167
Engine: 4x Mitsubishi MK4Q Kasei-22, 1380kW
Weights: 24500 kg / 54014 lb (take off), 18380 kg / 40521 lb (empty)
Dimensions: 38.0 m / 125 ft 8 in (wingspan), 28.13 m / 92 ft 3 in (length), 9.15 m / 30 ft 0 in (height), 160 mē / 1722.22 sq ft (wing area)
Performance: 460 km/h / 286 mph (max speed), 290 km/h / 180 mph (cruise speed), 8850 m / 29050 ft (ceiling), 7050 km / 4381 miles (range)
Armament: 3x 20 mm cannons, 4x 7.7 mm machine guns, 2000 kg of bombs or 2x 800 kg torpedos

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http://www.aviastar.org/air/japan/kawanishi_h8k.php

United States of America

Martin PBM Mariner

Manufacturer: Martin
Model: PBM-1
Crew: 7
Entered Service: 1940
Number Produced: 1285
Engine: 2x Wright R-2600-12, 1300kW
Weights: 25425 kg / 56000 lb (take off), 15048 kg / 33175 lb (empty)
Dimensions: 36.0 m / 118 ft 0 in (wingspan), 23.5 m / 79 ft 10 in (length), 5.33 m / 27 ft 6 in (height), 131 mē / 1408 sq ft (wing area)
Performance: 330 km/h / 205 mph (max speed), 240 km/h / 149 mph (cruise speed), 6040 m / 19800 ft (ceiling), 4800 km / 3000 miles (range)
Armament: 8x .50 cal machine guns, 1800 kg of bombs or 2x 1000 kg torpedos

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http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/martin_mariner.php

Consolidated PBY Catalina

Manufacturer: Consolidated
Model: PBY-5A
Crew: 6 - 10
Entered Service: 1936
Number Produced: 3305
Engine: 2x Pratt & Whitney R-1830-92 Twin Wasp, 895kW
Weights: 16066 kg / 35240 lb (take off), 9485 kg / 20910 lb (empty)
Dimensions: 31.70 m / 104 ft 0 in (wingspan), 19.46 m / 63 ft 10 in (length), 6.15 m / 21 ft 1 in (height), 130 mē / 1400 sq ft (wing area)
Performance: 314 km/h / 196 mph (max speed), 201 km/h / 125 mph (cruise speed), 4000 m / 15800 ft (ceiling), 4030 km / 2520 miles (range)
Armament: 3x .30 cal machine guns, 2x .50 cal machine guns, 1800 kg of bombs or 2x 1000 kg torpedos

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http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/cons_catalina.php

Germany

Heinkel He 115

Manufacturer: Heinkel
Model: He 115 C-1
Crew: 3
Entered Service: 1939
Number Produced: 138
Engine: 2x BMW 132K, 706kW
Weights: 10400 kg / 22928 lb (take off), 5290 kg / 11670 lb (empty)
Dimensions: 22.28 m / 73 ft 1 in (wingspan), 17.30 m / 56 ft 9 in (length), 6.60 m / 21 ft 7 in (height), 87.5 mē / 942 sq ft (wing area)
Performance: 327 km/h / 203 mph (max speed), 5200 m / 17100 ft (ceiling), 2100 km / 1305 miles (range)
Armament: 1x 20 mm cannon, 2x 7.92 mm machine guns, 5x 250 kg bombs or 2x 250 kg bombs and 1x 800kg torpedo

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http://www.aviastar.org/air/germany/he-115.php

Dornier Do 24

Manufacturer: Dornier
Model: Do 24 T-1
Crew: 6
Entered Service: 1937
Number Produced: 279
Engine: 3x Bramo 323R-2 Fafnir, 735kW
Weights: 18400 kg / 40565 lb (take off), 10600 kg / 23369 lb (empty)
Dimensions: 27.0 m / 89 ft 7 in (wingspan), 21.9 m / 72 ft 10 in (length), 5.8 m / 19 ft 0 in (height), 108.0 mē / 1162.50 sq ft (wing area)
Performance: 340 km/h / 211 mph (max speed), 255 km/h / 158 mph (cruise speed), 5900 m / 19350 ft (ceiling), 4800 km / 2983 miles (range)
Armament: 1x 20 mm cannon, 2x 7.92 mm machine guns, 600 kg of bombs

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http://www.aviastar.org/air/germany/dorn_do-24.php

+1

[Bama222]

yes I to would love to see seaplanes in this game>     

[Zacherof]

[shotgunneeley]

I'd go for this as well. I like upping storches myself to provide recon support of tank battles even though I'm a sitting duck. here are some things to think about.

1. Make them large sea planes available at ports only. smaller sea planes could spawn from either carrier groups or ports.
2. Give them the respective armament package.
3. I would support displaying a "radar" ring around the plane with a radius of reasonable sight distance. This isn't so much like a radar tower as it is a way to display recon info on the map to fellow players. This can only pick up enemy CV groups, not enemy aircraft.
4. Sea planes can loiter around the enemy CV and broadcast its position for friendly raiders or go on the assault with its armament.
5. Sea planes able to carry cargo can resupply fields as well as damaged (but not sunk) CVs...possibly...maybe...

[Karnak]

Are you ready to H8K2?  Of course you are!

Lets get started!

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[Volron]

Karnak, is this, by far, the plane you want the MOST?

[Karnak]

Karnak, is this, by far, the plane you want the MOST?

No, not really.  I'd love to see it added of course, but it isn't at the top of my personal list or my "Good for AH" list.  I just had the images on my hard drive from when Mitsu posted them more than a decade ago.  Except for the last one, I found that on the internet somewhere.

Given all the pictures of the other float planes and flying boats I figured I ought to try selling my preferred option a bit more aggressively.

[Zacherof]

And aggresive it was. Thus i have deleated all photo's and have given up

[earl1937]

Are wing floats incorparated into a wing? Or are they merely "bolted" on

I think all the PBY series of aircraft had retrackable wing tip floats and also retrackable landing gear to land on land.

[Ack-Ack]

I think all the PBY series of aircraft had retrackable wing tip floats and also retrackable landing gear to land on land.

Only the PBY-5A and PBY-6A were amphibious, all other PBYs were water only.

ack-ack

[F77]

As a true "heavy" would the Short Sunderland qualify for formations?
Or would it be a lone wolf as per historical?

[Greebo]

There may have been occasions when heavy flying boats like the Sunderland flew in a formation but generally these were lone patrol aircraft. IMO that's how they should be modelled in AH.

[Karnak]

There may have been occasions when heavy flying boats like the Sunderland flew in a formation but generally these were lone patrol aircraft. IMO that's how they should be modelled in AH.

H8K2s did do some formation bombing as bombers.

I've not read of other flying boats doing so though.