War Thunder

[stealth]

Alright well first I have a question which game is better Aces High or War Thunder? Now I'm gonna try not to get emotional because I flipping love Aces High. Anyway the only reason I'm bringing this up is because I got some 17 year old kid thinking he knows ACM, the history of flight, history of aerial warfare, and all of the above. Just because he has been playing War Thunder for the past 2 weeks. I recommended Aces High well because it's a good game, since he liked aerial combat. Then he tells me "That game doesn't even look half as good as War Thunder, plus it doesn't have as many planes". Which didn't sit well with me, anyway if anybody wants to spill their 2 cents about this I would appreciate any form of feedback. Actually just spill your entire coin purse I wanna hear what you all have to say. 

[Vudu15]

Here its is. War thunder is pretty...and that's it. here is a video I shot from it when a guy talked me into playing it during beta. When flying from first person you cant look backwards, infinite ammo, fuel, bombs. Heck during training they had me dropping torps from a Swordfish at 500 ft Minimum under AA fire any lower you drown the fish. I was flying a pre war bird in Beta against 51s, beaufighters, late war 109s and even some jets. It had its moments but it will never outdo AH at what it does. Now if you just love to point and click with your mouse then this is for you. In the video I think I should have been able to out maneuver a 109 pretty easy and the guns are default zeroed at 600 "Meters" crazy. I just couldn't hit the guy and I should have it was a good fight but boy was I upset I didn't get him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6oiZgNT2MU&list=PL7VvGQQXDHVDfPEaeSJDGMYwcP2Jxv9Fi&index=2



edit: It also flew like crap maybe that was to make you move up in planes, I played it about 12 hours or so I found it a challenge and interesting at first then all its flaws just killed it.

[fd ski]

Aces High is a simulator.

War Thunder is a plane based video game.

As for the 17yo - just challenge him to 1 on 1 in AH, let him fly whatever he wants - Zeke, Spitfire etc , let him pick your plane and show him how you cak kick his bellybutton using E tactics. Should be quite an education for him

[LCADolby]

Stay away from the Arcade mode, and you'll be fine.

The cpits are a fantastic place to sit and fight in and the immersion is excellent. The FX are what I have cried for AH to have since I made a post about it in2010. Considering that War blunder is using a Graphics engine of Wing of Prey (2008), kind makes my smile a little.

Full Real Battles are pretty good, I recommend hooking up with some AH players that have picked it up also.
Limited ammo and fuel are in this mode. And the Cpit view is forced, you can't look around too well because the game simulates you being strapped into the seat (and I challenge anyone you rotate their head 360'). Convergence can be adjusted as well as bullet type loadouts; from AP to HE rounds etc.

My problem with War blunder is the obvious Russian bias. Lagg3, La5 and 7 are insanely good, stupidly so. The 109F and E cant outturn either, even on full flaps. Also the 109E has the ata from a 109F, the G2 + F has 109E ata, the 109Es ammo counter doesn't work, so the game has a number of flaws.

The weather and the air feel a lot more realistic (AcesHigh air is so dense it feels like your flying through soup just point and you go), the transition into the clouds shakes you a little.
The ack is more realistic and hardly get any clean hits, but the shells exploding around you cause shock waves that shake you around a little.

People will argue that War blunder is poor because it looks pretty and the flight model is terrible, but they have only flown in Arcade (where the flight model is dumbed down for the children).
FRB is where it's at, and there is no horde which is a big plus. But you need a good pair of eyes because there is no icon in that mode, or stall horn for that matter.
AH players will find it a difficult transition without the AH Stall Horn to rely on.

It's a decent game and an acceptable alternative to AcesHigh. Plus if you like Early war like I do, you can get away with never having to pay a penny for the damn thing <G>

[zack1234]

i play ROF and AH and got a beta invite for WarThunder dont know why

I deleted after a week and I will try ought for free

In AH you log on and take off

ROF is the same

War Thunder is worse then Birds of Prey for gibberish

Eye candy is smoke and mirrors for poo game play

I am even more awesome this week then last week

I know its unbelievable but true

[gyrene81]

i wonder if anyone has noticed that all the planes fly exactly the same in warturder...

Stay away from the Arcade mode, and you'll be fine.

The cpits are a fantastic place to sit and fight in and the immersion is excellent. The FX are what I have cried for AH to have since I made a post about it in2010. Considering that War blunder is using a Graphics engine of Wing of Prey (2008), kind makes my smile a little.

Full Real Battles are pretty good, I recommend hooking up with some AH players that have picked it up also.
Limited ammo and fuel are in this mode. And the Cpit view is forced, you can't look around too well because the game simulates you being strapped into the seat (and I challenge anyone you rotate their head 360'). Convergence can be adjusted as well as bullet type loadouts; from AP to HE rounds etc.

how did you get into full real battles? i've been trying for weeks and it's always "this mode is not available at this time". if i have to pay for it, forget it, not worth the effort considering the flight models, damage calculations and the fact that if you're outside of that stupid little aiming guide, you don't hit anything at all. where are you adjusting convergence? i've poked everywhere and can't find anything to adjust.

i've figured out how to look straight back using my hat switch. it's just getting it to do it consistently that is a pain. i'd rather be able to do a look over the shoulder but there is now way to do it. the game was designed for keyboard/mouse or game controller, that's obvious from looking at the controls section.

The weather and the air feel a lot more realistic (AcesHigh air is so dense it feels like your flying through soup just point and you go), the transition into the clouds shakes you a little.
The ack is more realistic and hardly get any clean hits, but the shells exploding around you cause shock waves that shake you around a little.

you're playing a totally different game then...i've seen nothing to even match that description.

FRB is where it's at, and there is no horde which is a big plus. But you need a good pair of eyes because there is no icon in that mode, or stall horn for that matter.
AH players will find it a difficult transition without the AH Stall Horn to rely on.

again, where or how are you getting into full real? just judging from the controls, it looks to me like "full real" means nothing more than engine management...just like il2.

[Triton28]

My problem with War blunder is the obvious Russian bias. Lagg3, La5 and 7 are insanely good, stupidly so. The 109F and E cant outturn either, even on full flaps. Also the 109E has the ata from a 109F, the G2 + F has 109E ata, the 109Es ammo counter doesn't work, so the game has a number of flaws.

I keep hearing this over and over.  Not sure I could stick around very long if that was the case.  Devs will always get things wrong, but I wouldn't be optimistic that this will ever be fixed.  When patriotism spills over into game design it usually sticks around.

 

[LCADolby]

To get full real battles I'm pretty sure you have to be a level 4 or higher.

FRB is where you will see everything I have talked about.

[pembquist]

I can't play it cause it has no snap views. Makes me feel like a cat in a sack.

[Bruv119]

dolby don't let them fool you with all these FRB  nonsense it is still a turd dressed up for friday night.   

If that is enough for you to enjoy it then more power to you but I would feel like a cheap hooker pretending that it is any sort of realistic interpretation of a MMOPG WW2 flight sim.   

[zack1234]

You have to get to level 4 before it becomes realistic

What a load of gibberish

Do i have to stand on my head and do a silly dance as well , then eat meatballs and pasta to play a flight sim

Is it Eastern European?

Rise of Flight was appalling until a colonial took control of the company

[gyrene81]

To get full real battles I'm pretty sure you have to be a level 4 or higher.

FRB is where you will see everything I have talked about.

do the flight models get any better? i thought il2 was bad but, holy cow warturder is worse. every plane you jump into has the exact same feel, maneuverability, damage calculations and from what i've experienced, speed...i'm at level 3 hoping it gets better but, so far that is not the case.

[Gh0stFT]

I can't play it cause it has no snap views. Makes me feel like a cat in a sack.

Snap Views!? Ha, War Thunder works now officialy with the Oculus Rift! Who needs outdated Snap views   

[Latrobe]

I think it's funny that people who play WT refuse to play AHII solely because the graphics aren't the same.  If they just gave AH a try (you get 2 weeks FREE!) they'd see just how fun this game is. I don't care if AHII ever gets a new graphics engine, I will not stop playing this game.

I'm downloading WT to try it out and see for myself what differences there are. I'm very curious with all the back and forth going on.

[Ack-Ack]

Alright well first I have a question which game is better Aces High or War Thunder? Now I'm gonna try not to get emotional because I flipping love Aces High. Anyway the only reason I'm bringing this up is because I got some 17 year old kid thinking he knows ACM, the history of flight, history of aerial warfare, and all of the above. Just because he has been playing War Thunder for the past 2 weeks. I recommended Aces High well because it's a good game, since he liked aerial combat. Then he tells me "That game doesn't even look half as good as War Thunder, plus it doesn't have as many planes". Which didn't sit well with me, anyway if anybody wants to spill their 2 cents about this I would appreciate any form of feedback. Actually just spill your entire coin purse I wanna hear what you all have to say. 

Just tell him have fun playing War Thunder and move on.  Honestly, who cares if he thinks War Thunder is better than AH?  Does what he think stop you from enjoying AH?

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