I'm so flying that Yak!!!!

[SirNuke]

franz is in a 'what is the best dictatorship' contest very amusing if it was not MY yak thread. Get lost and create your own revisionist thread, Arschloch

[SmokinLoon]

Again it should be noted that this is factually incorrect, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact resulted in German possession of territories that never belonged to the German Empire and some which I don't think ever even belonged to Prussia at the high water mark of its eastern borders.
Although alternative history from the board's resident Hollywood-educated Nazi-apologist is always entertaining.

He isn't apologizing and he isn't all that far out in left field.  It is sad that the first thing most people do is knee jerk when they hear "Germany" in the conversation of WWII they think "Nazi zombies".  Just because someone brings to light certain things in WWII that most may not know about especially in regards to Germany it doesn't mean they are apologizing or siding with that occurrence.  The sooner people leave their emotions on at the door when they study history the sooner they'll actually learn history.  Read the facts, keep in mind the "sign-o-times" factor, and understand the differences in the cultures, technologies, etc.       

[Karnak]

For example if you believed Soviet reports on warfare on Finnish front, the whole FAF would have been killed 3 times over. I guess FAF had AH2 planes with instant respawn ability...

Find me an air force that did not massively overclaim kills in WWII....

Certainly some were worse than others, but none were very good about it.

[Rich46yo]

 

So, 1939, Germany invades western Poland and got their land back, Danzig Corridor etc, from legitimate 'territoial disputes and claims' and so England and France declare war. GERMANY WAS STILL WITHIN THEIR OLD PRE WW1 BORDERS.
England / France don't actually attck tho, Germans called this time period 'sitzkreig.'
England / France still had possesion of German's pre ww1 collonies. Possesion of stole property.
Etc etc etc... lots of post ww1 attrocities by allieds.

Not two weeks later, Russia invades eastern Poland, and England / France don't declare war.  

Later on, Germany invades Russia, finds mass graves, including 15,000 masacred Polish officers. Germany offers full 109 escort to any 'international' Red Cross inspectors, but it gets denied by allieds.

After the war, eastern europe countries are not returned to the individual countries' governments, so the phrase "western betrayal' becomes an attitude.
Look up the song 'New dawn fades' by polish group Moby, the version from unrelated movie 'Heat' is best...
"Still occupied though you forget"
How about that Polish gerneral that was leading 'free Polish' armies along side allied armies, the guy was upset about the 15,000 etc, and he has 'an accident' on the way to a meeting, Malta was it? He was executed!
This is recent stuff, the guy wanted to be burried in a 'free Poland' and so late 90s(?) his grave gets moved to Poland, major news at the time.

Soooo, I'm not going to say, come to your own conclusions.
Oh, and Germany 'losing' is relavent, they took plenty of their enemies with them,  and I'm sure this makes Fruda "unhappy!"
Ok "kiddo"  

[Slash27]

franz is in a 'what is the best dictatorship' contest very amusing if it was not MY yak thread. Get lost and create your own revisionist thread, Arschloch

[GScholz]

Yep, a late 109G-6 filled with MW-50 ...

I get the impression that you think mw-50 is some sort of special fuel. It's just water injection (with methanol as antifreeze).

[nrshida]

Yeah you can't really blame Hitler though. He served his country in the trenches and received nothing but criticism for his artwork which was unjustified and unfair. He was an artist of incredible talent and emotion. Had my work been criticized like that I would have probably been so angry I would have invaded Europe too.

One of his lesser known pieces for example: 'Verrat des deutschen Volkes' really captured his astute observation and ability to summarize the feelings of an entire nation.

I've included it here but you should pause for a moment and brace yourselves before scrolling down, it is a very emotive piece.

[titanic3]

Teeeeeheeeehehehe.

[Motherland]

He isn't apologizing and he isn't all that far out in left field.  It is sad that the first thing most people do is knee jerk when they hear "Germany" in the conversation of WWII they think "Nazi zombies".  Just because someone brings to light certain things in WWII that most may not know about especially in regards to Germany it doesn't mean they are apologizing or siding with that occurrence.  The sooner people leave their emotions on at the door when they study history the sooner they'll actually learn history.  Read the facts, keep in mind the "sign-o-times" factor, and understand the differences in the cultures, technologies, etc.       

nearly everything he's said in this thread has either been flat out wrong or a gross misleading exaggeration. that's not contributing anything to a discussion or bringing to light overlooked history, that's propaganda and it's poisonous.

[Karnak]

Franz whitewashes anything and everything that Germany did while pointing spotlights at anything the Allied nations, particularly the British whom he seems to have a particular problem with, did wrong.

[Lusche]

I've included it here but you should pause for a moment and brace yourselves before scrolling down, it is a very emotive piece.
(Image removed from quote.)

   

[Perrine]

I get the impression that you think mw-50 is some sort of special fuel. It's just water injection (with methanol as antifreeze).

_I_know_what_MW-50_really_is_...  but I just like to call it "The Juice" like because it really does transforms 109G-14 like this



And use The Juice sparingly because when it runs out it goes from



to




and be totally helpless against YAK-3/LAV-7 combo

[Cato]

Gixer.   Paging Gixer to general forums please.   There's a relevant game topic that interests you that doesn't necessitate a fuss.   Gixer to general forums please.

Gixer is "Persona Non Grata" this BBS since HT doesn't seem to like discussion about antiquated graphics.

In reply I've banned HT from my credit card for good and won't be returning, even with the recent Yak update which I've been waiting 9 years for.

Mainly for two main reasons.

1. Gameplay, horde & air quake mindset is destroying the game and the falling A2A and overall MA numbers reflect this especially off peak hours.

2. Game is seriously out dated now at a number of levels, terrain graphics is just one of them.
 
So enjoy the Yak, I won't be flying it or anything else. Been a interesting 13 years to say the least but imho AH is dying off (reflected in MA numbers) and it's just no longer worth $15 a month in it's current state, visually and game play.


Now back to iRacing 



<S>...-Gixer

[SirNuke]

what, they banned gixer? IIRC he stayed civil in the heated debate... banning him for his opinions is a bit disappointing

[Slash27]

Hate to see such a long time vet leave. You'll be missed Gixer, let me know if you ever find Concho