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Offline kano

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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2013, 06:25:22 PM »
excellent informative video latrobe  :aok

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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2013, 07:49:27 PM »
Really enjoyed that, keep them coming :)
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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2013, 07:58:11 PM »

 :devil

For my next video I'm thinking I'm going to dedicate it to explaining the tailslide and how to perform it. I'm looking around for 2 video cameras to record my stick and pedal inputs, and then I'll start work on it.  :salute


 :aok :O :salute please do.
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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2013, 08:26:24 PM »
 :aok     :rock

Thank you.

Now I truly know I have no chance, and for quite some time to come. I'll have to revisit the TA.

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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2013, 09:35:16 AM »
:aok     :rock

Thank you.

Now I truly know I have no chance, and for quite some time to come. I'll have to revisit the TA.

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Yeah that's exactly how I felt after watching it that tailslide is very impressive I was messing last night trying to do it but I just look like a sad fish flopping about  :lol
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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2013, 12:28:01 PM »

 :devil

For my next video I'm thinking I'm going to dedicate it to explaining the tailslide and how to perform it. I'm looking around for 2 video cameras to record my stick and pedal inputs, and then I'll start work on it.  :salute

Was watching you Tailslide in the P47 the other night as kids took the bait. . .I called on range "Latrobe is the jug, don't overshoot" . . . :old:
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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2013, 01:27:55 PM »
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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2013, 06:22:16 PM »
Was watching you Tailslide in the P47 the other night as kids took the bait. . .I called on range "Latrobe is the jug, don't overshoot" . . . :old:

 :lol I love the tailslide in the Jug. That thing responds so well! You can get it flying backwards, hold it there, and reverse back into forward flight whenever you please.  ;)   Of course that's a little exaggerated. If you hold it backwards for too long you stall and drop from the skies, but the controls still work even in a stall!

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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2013, 12:21:08 AM »
 :rock

Most excellent video, I am horrible in 3v1 situations. Would love to see one of you doing mad pilot stuff in the jug. I am not worthy.  :airplane:



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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2013, 10:43:23 PM »
Very nice video Latrobe, well presented and it gave me an idea of how to better think though situations.
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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2013, 06:07:44 AM »
very good video :aok  I agree with beefcake, I see more how to deal more with more than 2 guys.  but I still end in tower :lol

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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2013, 02:58:11 PM »
At 6:50 in the video I spot my con, I am at 12-13k. Ki-84 does not dive well. How do I dump all this alt, not break off parts and get a good saddle? The side slip.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-zUzvinuaCQ
 
the slip
Types of slip vary in degree from inadvertently flying cross-controlled in the cruise i.e. one wing slightly low and compensating with opposite rudder, to a fully-fledged cross-controlled turn where the aircraft is steeply banked in a descending turn with full opposite rudder applied. All slips result in increased drag. This is a manoeuvre only for the pilot who has a very good feel for his/her aircraft because, among other things, the ASI will probably be giving a false airspeed readout. There seem to be as many definitions of the types of slip as there are exponents of slip techniques but the safe execution of all sideslips requires adequate instruction and continuing practice.

The straight sideslip approach to landing

The 'helmet and goggles' crowd who, very sensibly, like to fly biplanes and other aeroplanes not equipped with flaps, need a manoeuvre for use on the landing approach to a short strip which enables them to lose height quickly without increasing airspeed and which provides a good view of the landing area. The answer is the cross-controlled straight sideslip which is a manoeuvre designed to lose height over a short distance, dumping the potential energy of height by converting it to drag turbulence rather than kinetic energy. Such sideslips may also be a requirement when executing a forced landing.

Once established on the approach descent path at the correct airspeed, the aircraft is banked with sufficient opposite (top) rudder applied to stop the directional stability yawing the nose into the relative airflow and thus turning. Slight backward pressure on the control column is probably needed to keep the nose from dropping. The aircraft sideslips in a moderate to steep bank with the fuselage angled across the flight path, giving the pilot a very good view of the landing area. The greatly increased drag from the exposure of the fuselage side surfaces to the oncoming airflow enables an increased angle of descent without an increase in the approach airspeed.

The sink rate is controlled by aileron and power is held constant – usually at idle/low power and the sideslip must be halted well before the round-out and touchdown. When recovering care must be taken to coordinate the relaxation of the back pressure, the levelling of the wings and the straightening of the rudder otherwise the aircraft may stall – particularly in turbulent conditions.

The straight sideslip is limited by the maximum rudder authority available, there will be a bank angle beyond which full opposite rudder will not stop the aircraft from turning.

The sideslipping turn

This is a very useful manoeuvre if it is necessary to increase the sink rate during a turn – such as the turn onto final approach in a forced landing when an overshoot of the landing site is apparent. It is just a sideslip where the bank applied exceeds the opposite rudder applied and the aircraft enters a sideslipping turn. The rate of turn and the rate of sink are controlled by the amount of bank and the amount of rudder, very high descent rates are achieved if the bank angle applied exceeds the full rudder authority.

Fishtailing

Fish tailing is a series of sideslips where the wings are held level in the approach attitude while the aircraft is repeatedly yawed from side to side by applying full alternate rudder. The increased drag increases the sink rate.

Sideslip to a crosswind landing

In a sideslip to a crosswind landing the aircraft is always banked with the into-wind wing down so that the sideslip can be smoothly decreased to a forward slip [see below] before the roundout. Most aircraft tend to be slower in the slip so the nose will need to be a bit lower than that needed to maintain the normal approach speed. A smoothly executed sideslip approach requires much practise but displays considerable finesse to a ground observer.
 






The Tail Slide & Side Slip all in one forum!  :banana:

 :cheers: Latrobe! Great video sir!

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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2013, 09:11:06 AM »
Excellent video.  Your stick skills never fail to impress and inform.  I still can't tailside the G2 for some reason....but found I could get the P39Q to do so while futzing around in the DA.    :airplane: :joystick:  :headscratch:

BTW....the video was uplifting for me as I realized after watching that I'm not the only "gunnery challenged" cartoon pilot in the game.   YAY ME! :banana:
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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2013, 03:44:04 PM »
Very cool.  :aok

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Re: Dogfight Walkthrough Video with a 3v1!
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2013, 08:14:10 PM »
Wow!!  That was a fantastic video  :aok.  I didn't count but you made a bunch of decisions.  I'll have to practice that tail slide.  You made that snap roll look easy  :rock.
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