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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2013, 09:05:08 AM »
It just a fixed Osti really.


No 37MM soft gun is far deadlier shoots a lot further & far more accurate. The Osti has a spray pattern & the times I see a round go over then under left & right of an aircraft before it knocks out the main gun in an Osti is frustrating. Although that spray pattern can also save you with that golden BB that just happens to hit when you don't think it should have due to the dispersion pattern.

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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2013, 09:06:44 AM »
Holy crap!  :O   Is that with the 37mm?  Most I ever got with the 37 was 16 kills.   

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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2013, 09:08:44 AM »
you just happen to be in field gun for massive bish lawn dart session?  :lol :banana:


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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2013, 09:13:08 AM »
my main activity in the game is killing people with 37mm field guns. i rarely see just one "looking for a fight". a plane circling a field is looking to vulch. and usually they're so greedy they vulch while the ack is up. that's where i come in.


if they were just looking for a fight, why not go hang out on the edge of the radar ring instead?
 

Because I'd like to know if I'm about to face a number of planes that I can't handle or not? And I'd rather not have the other guy come at 15K while I'm looking for a fight instead of a BnZ fest. I came to fight, not for suicide. Not going to fight something silly like that.

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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2013, 09:13:28 AM »
Manned guns should count as a death to the person using them, and a kill/victory to the guy shooting them when manned.

It's logical nothing more.

Could care less either way perk them if you like. I would still use them & if you get the kill & the perk reward as well as a death on my score card  :headscratch: I will take some perk points as well.

Only logical after all.

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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2013, 10:02:27 AM »
No 37MM soft gun is far deadlier shoots a lot further & far more accurate. The Osti has a spray pattern & the times I see a round go over then under left & right of an aircraft before it knocks out the main gun in an Osti is frustrating. Although that spray pattern can also save you with that golden BB that just happens to hit when you don't think it should have due to the dispersion pattern.

Its just an uber fixed osti then....
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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2013, 10:44:40 AM »
Manned guns should count as a death to the person using them, and a kill/victory to the guy shooting them when manned.

It's logical nothing more.

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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2013, 11:26:14 AM »
you can kill a fixed gun with a rocket from a ridiculous range, i see no reason to make it a kill. It earns no points, it can only turn in circles and once destroyed is gone for 15 mins, not instantly back up. If your going to be dumb enough to furball within range of a field, vulch or fly circles around the field you deserve to be shot by someone in a manned gun.

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Wouldn't bother me if it counted as a death, but I fail to see how someone shooting at someone else is considered "avoiding combat"?  You mean air to air combat?

it makes themselves fell better for getting shot down to say it that way.
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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2013, 11:41:53 AM »
you can kill a fixed gun with a rocket from a ridiculous range, i see no reason to make it a kill. It earns no points, it can only turn in circles and once destroyed is gone for 15 mins, not instantly back up. If your going to be dumb enough to furball within range of a field, vulch or fly circles around the field you deserve to be shot by someone in a manned gun.

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it's them self fell better for getting shot down to say it that way.

You can also end the sortie ridiculously fast before the rocket even hit you.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2013, 11:57:14 AM »
Because I'd like to know if I'm about to face a number of planes that I can't handle or not? And I'd rather not have the other guy come at 15K while I'm looking for a fight instead of a BnZ fest. I came to fight, not for suicide. Not going to fight something silly like that.

You honestly think most the people look up see one plane and think he wants a fair even fight? It's more like why should i up low and slow for a BnZ suicide fest. They get in a defensive gun and start spraying and praying, most people can't hit crap with them anyways. It's not like it's the LTAR's knocking everything down within 5k of the field any more.

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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2013, 12:07:53 PM »
You honestly think most the people look up see one plane and think he wants a fair even fight? It's more like why should i up low and slow for a BnZ suicide fest. They get in a defensive gun and start spraying and praying, most people can't hit crap with them anyways. It's not like it's the LTAR's knocking everything down within 5k of the field any more.

Shrug, like I said, I up the moment I notice its a fighter plane all by himself. I'll climb in my own ack first and if he stays at the same alt or dives, I come out and have a nice clean fight. It's really not that hard to dodge a BnZ from a single attacker anyway. If that happens, I go back to my field, land and go somewhere else.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2013, 12:36:10 PM »
if the dude in the manned gun hits you, he gets a kill. seems like if you hit the dude in the manned gun you should get a kill.. easy like..
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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2013, 02:54:15 PM »
Yes, and as Lyric said. . . the faster you go the more likely you are to be hit. Just the way it is.

Hmm yeah its funny I ran some actual tests on likelihood of field ack to hit a p51 and a 190 for the rad tests and I found the complete opposite to be true, your biggest defense against any sort of ack is speed, the faster you go the less likely you are to be hit.


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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2013, 03:03:13 PM »
I beg to differ.

Really? when was the last time you shot me down, I cannot actually remember the last time I got shot down by any 37mm? I think it was a proxy after I couldn't be bothered rtbing, again guys sitting in guns shooting at me for 10 minutes. Its actually even quite easy for me to deack a small field single handed including any man guns firing at me and not have a scratch and plenty of ammo?

Maybe I haven't run into the 'uber' pointy clickers yet who knows?  :D

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Re: Manned Gun = Man dead
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2013, 03:09:52 PM »
Really? when was the last time you shot me down, I cannot actually remember the last time I got shot down by any 37mm? I think it was a proxy after I couldn't be bothered rtbing, again guys sitting in guns shooting at me for 10 minutes. Its actually even quite easy for me to deack a small field single handed including any man guns firing at me and not have a scratch and plenty of ammo?

Maybe I haven't run into the 'uber' pointy clickers yet who knows?  :D


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