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Offline alpini13

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   I just noticed this in the hangar, and was wondering why.  the new yak-3 does not have bombs or rockets,heck,it doesent even have a drop tank,but it can be flown in fighter or attack mode.  if this is going to be standard,when will they change the ta-152,bf-109k-4,c-205,and bf-109f???

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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 06:07:50 PM »
if this is going to be standard,when will they change the ta-152,bf-109k-4,c-205,and bf-109f???

Was wondering the same thing. I'm sure there isn't any change in any standard coming.

The current standard (it was changed to this couple years ago) seems to be that if the plane has any air to ground ordnance it has the choise to score the sortie in the attack category, if not it won't.

I'm sure it'll get changed.
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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 06:33:30 PM »
Even if they don't, it's an easy player choice to avoid. :D

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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 07:29:26 PM »
Even if they don't, it's an easy player choice to avoid. :D


I think that all fighters should be able to be flown in attack mode. Why not? I killed a Hetzer with a Yak-3 on a single gun pass.....

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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 11:10:31 PM »
I think that all fighters should be able to be flown in attack mode.
So do I. I use my plane to attack other aircraft.  :devil
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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2013, 02:41:52 AM »
I want to fly the C-47 in attack mode :old:!
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2013, 03:16:20 AM »
 Good question........ 

I take the point that all fighters might be available in attack mode.


IMO if rockets or bombs  are loaded then Attack should be "forced" to "ON".
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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2013, 04:16:04 AM »
IMO if rockets or bombs  are loaded then Attack should be "forced" to "ON".


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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2013, 07:07:54 AM »

Why?

Agreed. Leave it the player's option. That way the imaginary bombs on the Yak-3 can count as imaginary fighter points instead of imaginary attack points when dropped on other planes.  :)

(actually I believe I like the 'all fighters can be designated 'attack' mentality)

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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2013, 07:10:23 AM »
Agreed


With what? I didn't give any opinion on that matter, I just asked a question  :P
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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2013, 07:11:43 AM »

With what? I didn't give any opinion on that matter, I just asked a question  :P

Agreed.  :P

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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 07:17:11 AM »
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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 07:51:39 AM »
I think aircraft that were designed **and used** for a specific role should be classified as such.  If the plane didn't have hard points for ordnance and the units in which they flew in did not partake in ground operations (moving dirt), then shouldn't they be classified as "fighters"?

There are few aircraft that are truly absolute (in terms of AH fighter, attack, or bomber classification). The B29 is one of them (bomber).  The Ta152 and Me163 are another (fighter). The IL-2 is yet another (attack, i.e.: direct fire support).  Aircraft like the Spit 16 were meant to be used as a direct fire support ground attack plane (gasp!), yet it derived from one of the best dog fighters in WWII.

As the war went on more and more planes were used to attack ground targets because the Axis had fewer and fewer planes.

I don't know why HTC classified the Yak-3 as a combo plane, but that is their prerogative.  I think having the Spit 1,5, and 9 as fighter and the Spit 8 and 16 and fighter/attack is proper though.  I'm not up enough on the different Yaks to comment historically speaking, but I'd be willing to bet that the Yak-9U was used more exclusively for fighter duty over the Yak-3 simply because there were more Luftwaffe planes to combat when the Yak-9x's were in the air vs when the Yak-3 was in the air, figuratively anyways. Just a guess.

Also... just because a player can up a Yak-x and kill a gv does not make it a combo plane.  Just because a tank uses the main gun to bring down a plane does not make it an AA platform.   :aok     
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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 09:26:45 AM »
i dont think"prerogative" as you say has anything to do with it.... i was wondering if a mistake had been made,or if there was going to be a change to other fighter aircraft as well.  i had noticed that aircraft with bombs or rockets that were fighters,could also be flown in attack mode......but the yak-3 has no bombs,rockets or drop tank......like  other fighter only mode aircraft.yet they do not have the attack mode.

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Re: why is the new YAK-3 available in both attack and fighter???
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 09:47:32 AM »
maybe with it being more of a tactical A/C, there is some expectation that people will use it to de ack or take down M3's jeeps, not saying it might not be a mistake, just throwing ideas out there :)