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Offline Slade

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P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« on: July 31, 2013, 08:29:32 AM »
Guys,

P-40s rock!  I have become a much better pilot after spending chunky hours in P-40's in the last few months.  I find every version of the P-40 here modeled amazing well and each has its own strengths.  P-40s have improved my basic ACM, improved setting up firing solutions etc.

You should invest in flying P-40s while flying your bird of choice.

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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 08:34:03 AM »
Oh I agree.  As long as you can maintain your E to 250+ TAS, you can hang with a lot of fighters.  Once you get below that mark you're going to have a hard time keeping up because climbing and accelerating are not the strengths of any of the P40's.  The N can do some impressive stuff around that 8-10k mark while it has WEP available, and the F is good at flying fast while above 18k (it drops fast w/o E though, it is a heavy bird).  Do not over look the E model either.  The C is fun, but it needs to knife fight to get the job done and that 250 TAS issue comes in to play real quick. 


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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 04:09:11 PM »
The biggest reason I don't fly the P-40 more is climb rate.  It takes 50% longer to get to alt compared to a lot of other planes.

I probably will fly more of it at some point, though.  It's one of the planes I've flown the least.

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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2013, 05:26:51 PM »
I enjoy flying the P-40s as well although it's been awhile....thx for the reminder Slade! :salute :cheers:

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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 05:33:51 PM »
I remember a player Makayla? Or something like that who used to fly it alot.


The plane is a difficult ride to use in a knife fight tho where I tend to end up alo of the times.
 With my new knowledge I might do better with her.
Wish she had a stringer engine, and combat flaps like me jug :banana:
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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2013, 10:25:40 AM »
P-40C is an ez mode crutch ride.  There, I said it.  :neener:

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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 08:16:41 PM »
Does anyone know what those guy wires from the rudder to the wing tips are? Support ,  antennas?

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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2013, 08:18:22 PM »
They are antennae (or for all I know an antenna -- i.e., not sure if it is two wires or one length of wire).

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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2013, 09:44:03 PM »
They are antennae (or for all I know an antenna -- i.e., not sure if it is two wires or one length of wire).

what freq. range were the radios typically used at?  We can probably figure it out from that :x

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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2013, 09:52:48 PM »
I'm guessing low frequency if they needed to be that long.
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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2013, 10:22:41 PM »
Interesting little bit of trivia about the P-40, the IJAAF actually flew the P-40 in combat in Burma for the aerial defense of Rangoon.

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"During the Spring 1943 Air Offensive in Burma, on March 21, 1943, a mission was flown against Feni Airfield by 21 heavy bombers (Sally II) and 15 fighters (Oscar II), the planes returning at night. The heavy bomber formation which headed toward Rangoon were fired upon by friendly anti-aircraft batteries around Rangoon, since the ground air defenses had not been properly alerted to the approach of the returning bombers which had changed the air base to which they were going to land.

'Not only that, but from Mingaladon Airfield, a unit of our forces equipped with captured P-40s took off to intercept. In the darkened sky, a tragic exchange of friendly fire took place. By the time they realized what had happened, some of the heavy bombers had force-landed after being hit by the friendly fire.'"
Source: "A-AH, HAYABUSA SENTOTAI" (A-ah, Hayabusa Fighter Unit) by Yasuhiko KUROE (Posthumously), Kojinsha Tokyo:1969, pp 246-248

Another account of the action.
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"12 aircraft of 12th Sentai and 9 of 98th Sentai, under escort from 15 fighters of 64th Sentai led by Capt. KUROE attacked Feni No.1 Airfield. Upon return, 98th Sentai and the 1st and 2nd Chutai of the 64th Sentai landed at Magwe. 12th Sentai and 3rd Chutai, 64th Sentai (directly led by KUROE) headed for Toungoo. But Toungoo was under attack from enemy aircraft at the time, and the formation was diverted to Hlegu. KUROE and his Oscars did not catch that radio message. They waited until the enemy raid was over and landed at Toungoo North. When 12th Sentai neared Hlegu, they were suddenly illuminated by searchlights and were attacked by fighters. The aircraft of 3rd Chutai Leader, Capt. Shigeo IWAHASHI, with sentai-cho Col. YOSHII onboard, was hit and crash-landed at Mingaladon. It hit an earth bank, broke its fuselage and the tail flew off. Four crewmen were killed in the crash and Capt. IWAHASHI and two others injured. Col. YOSHII was unhurt. Two other aircraft of IWAHASHI's formation were also hit and force-landed at Hlegu, but there were no casualties among the crew. The rest of the aircraft landed safely at Hlegu and Mingaladon.

The fighters which attacked IWAHASHI's formation were from a unit equipped with captured P-40s formed for the aerial defense of Rangoon."
Source: Boeicho Kokan Senshi (aka "Senshi Sosho") Vol. 61 Burma, N.E.I. Area 3rd Air Army Operations, PP 284-286

There were two IJAAF units that flew the P-40 in 1943 over Rangoon, 2 Hiko Chutai and 50 Hiko Sentai (2nd Air Squadron, 50th Air Regiment).

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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2013, 10:44:21 PM »
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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2013, 02:09:50 AM »


Those weren't the captured P-40s that saw combat with the IJAAF, those are the captured P-40s that were being evaluated and you can also see a captured B-17 towards the end of the line.  The IJAAF Burma P-40s looked like this profile.



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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2013, 10:02:07 AM »
Any idea what the results of the Japanese evaluations of the captured P-40s were? Was it difficult for them to maintain the American planes at combat ready status?

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Re: P-40c = Complete Air Superiority Fighter!
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2013, 10:56:51 AM »
I've heard the reports on the LaGG-3 they evaluated after it was captured thanks to a Soviet deserter leaving it in a field were less than glowing.
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