911 lawsuit

[surfinn]

Rich I was a paramedic firefighter for several years. We had incompetent dispatchers put us in danger on several occasions. Was shot at twice and once was a domestic violence case. After pulling the 911 tape the dispatcher was well aware that it was a DM call but decided the important thing was to send a ambulance for the guys cut on his head. The call was sent to us as a laseration to the forhead. The wife answered the door we went in, the man walks out of the bedroom not three feet away from us and shots one round in our direction before me and my female partner were able to subdue him. How the guy missed both of us at that close a range is miracle to me. The dispatcher didn't send in police backup to clear the scene before sending us in which is SOP on DM cases.
Point being It never crossed my mind to sue the dispatcher for extream stupidity. Did get the rest of the shift off with pay though so that was a bonus   

You are right though about no one knowing the facts of the case however if there was a need to send a police officer then there must have been some expectation of violence.

[Vudak]

Rich, the officer has a remedy here - it's called W. Comp.  It's also the exclusive remedy against an employer in TX, hence why the bloodsucking lawyer is targeting the woman instead of the city (where the really deep pockets are). 

Also, I'd like to be clear that I'm not questioning what the LEO did AT the scene in the heat of the moment...  Just what he's done afterwards, with plenty of time to think about it. 

[GScholz]

"Sigh" Why am I the one that needs to point this out to you? I even have to point it out to another PO.

Before a car is dispatched to a disturbance call a dispatcher "always" asks the caller if the person involved is violent, on drugs/alcohol, or armed. So what if this lady, knowing full well he was several of the above, Lied to the dispatcher and said he wasnt? As women often do to protect some schmuck who is beating them. Knowing full well he WAS both violent and high? Should she be held liable then?

No.


What's next? Soldiers suing people who voted for the incumbent government because they sent them to war and got hurt?

[rpm]

That said this Officer should be discharged the moment the court-case is resolved, while his actions on the scene to me appear justified.

He'll do the same thing a bad cop does when he gets in trouble, move to the next County/City and get hired there. Very common scenario and a big reason cops get a bad reputation. They don't weed out the bad ones, just move them around.

[TEXAS20]

Before a car is dispatched to a disturbance call a dispatcher "always" asks the caller if the person involved is violent, on drugs/alcohol, or armed. So what if this lady, knowing full well he was several of the above, Lied to the dispatcher and said he wasn't? As women often do to protect some schmuck who is beating them. Knowing full well he WAS both violent and high? Should she be held liable then?

"Always" is BS

Even if she did ....I wouldn't sue her.  Like i said before "IMHO" stupid!  I have lost friends also Rich and I don't need anything pointed out to me when comes to not trusting a damn thing a dispatcher or complaintant tells me about a disturbance.  If she said he was an angel.......would you believe her?  Hell no!  Guy fought for his life and won!  I'm behind him! Good job until its proved otherwise.  Now he is going to sue the complaintant for not warning him.  Get the @#$% out of here!  If she conspired to ambush the deputy then lets file on her.

last post for me on this. Rich if you wanna go back and forth we can PM  

[Rich46yo]

This is all a big nothing. Its one private party suing another private party. And its a "big nothing" nobody knows the details to as well, to belittle it even more. So thats my point. Not only doesnt anyone know the details but as a private law suit its not even really our business. At least it isnt mine. Sweet Jesus! It must be all those "Judge Judy" shows.

And frankly Tex I dont even want to talk more about it in PM. Stay safe. 

[guncrasher]

Rich, the officer has a remedy here - it's called W. Comp.  It's also the exclusive remedy against an employer in TX, hence why the bloodsucking lawyer is targeting the woman instead of the city (where the really deep pockets are). 

Also, I'd like to be clear that I'm not questioning what the LEO did AT the scene in the heat of the moment...  Just what he's done afterwards, with plenty of time to think about it. 

ever think that any bloodsucking lawyer first needs a blood sucking complainant to act?



semp

[Oldman731]

ever think that any bloodsucking lawyer first needs a blood sucking complainant to act?

An often overlooked point.

- oldman

[surfinn]

He'll do the same thing a bad cop does when he gets in trouble, move to the next County/City and get hired there. Very common scenario and a big reason cops get a bad reputation. They don't weed out the bad ones, just move them around.

BS. What you do at one department follows you. The good old boy system is alive and well in Police departments and while they may not be able to legally tell another department about the actions that got you fired, you can rest assured that the exact reasons will be well know be the hiring department. Oh and he was absolutely right in what he did in that situation if what we've been shown is true.

[TEXAS20]

And frankly Tex I dont even want to talk more about it in PM. Stay safe. 

You too ..............i think ill stay in the fishing thread 

[uptown]

The cop should have just shot the bath salt freak between the eyes like a rabid dog and then beat the woman all along the kneecaps for allowing the bastige in her house. Case closed...next call please.

[surfinn]

I will say this though there are some people who should never be police officers. Grew up with this kid who was a habitual liar. When he turned 20 he got a job as a Police officer due to his family connections in Long Beach MS. Little punk got fired for brutally hand cuffing a man and his 10 year old daughter in a small wooded patch for target practicing with a BB gun. Little sod said they pointed a gun at him. When in actuality it was him pointing his gun at them. Turns out the guy was a well respected member of the comunity on his own damn property. Pisses me off every time I think about it. Little punk should have never been given a badge.

[dedalos]

I like how cops get so upset at any hint that any of them might have done anything wrong.  Really?  Do you think public opinion comes out of no where?  Let me tell you a story about the good old days.

1988, January in Chicago.  Cold as hell and I am walking home from my girlfriends house with a back back with college books.  Out of no where this beat up car comes speeding down the wrong way and tries to cut me off as I cross the sidewalk crossing an alley.  I jump out of the way and next think I know two guys guns drawn are yelling "on the ground mother*****".  So, here I am on the ground with a fat guy on my back and guns pointing at me and yelling.  He asked for my address and as soon as I told him they got back in the car and left.  Do you see any wrong doing there?  Good thing I am white or you may not be able to read this now. 

So, like every other profession, there are idiots in it.  The difference is that in every other profession they are not protected and they are not above the law.  We all know what happens if one of you gets pulled over right?  Just show your badge and its all good.  If you guys made an example of said idiots instead of protecting them I bet you public opinion would change towards cops and the good ones would not have to be looked at the way they are now.

[Vudak]

ever think that any bloodsucking lawyer first needs a blood sucking complainant to act?

semp

I don't see too many claimants taking out ads and commercials everywhere they can.

I'm actually a claims handler.  For 10 years before that, I was a bloodsucking paralegal, so I'm quite aware of how this whole game works   And I'll tell ya, not too many claimants know what they're doing until a lawyer educates them.  

Of course to be fair there are plenty of insurance companies out there that aren't doing the world any favors either.

[surfinn]

  The difference is that in every other profession they are not protected and they are not above the law.  We all know what happens if one of you gets pulled over right?  Just show your badge and its all good. 

Perk of the Job get over it or pay them more  a LOT MORE