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Offline Biggamer

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X52 issue please help
« on: August 16, 2013, 07:30:33 PM »
i was in game flying and all my buttons was working fine my look up button is set to my pinky trigger and it stoped working.. it was working and stopped working in the same sortie was odd i figured my button just broke witch was odd its not that old..i checked the button in windows and it lights up everytime showing its working but will not work ingame i try reinstalling drivers and still nothing.
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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2013, 02:02:16 AM »
A power issue, maybe?
Do you use a powered USB hub?
If you don't, how old is your PSU/motherboard?

It might be that in a power consuming situation like in-game due to aging your power related components, mainly capacitors, can't supply enough juice for all the devices connected to your motherboard's USB ports. IIRC one port - or actually if I've understood correctly, pair of ports - can deliver one (1) ampere of 5 volt current. An X52 with all of its lights and displays will draw quite a lot of power, which an older PSU might not be able to handle any more.

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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2013, 07:59:49 AM »
It could be any of a few things. My guess is there is a stuck key or a key that isnt mapping right. Did you try opening notebook and depressing the key? Or maybe it has something to do with SST being in Latch mode.

I must say its unusual to use the latch/pinkie button for such a task. Its supposed to be used to allow second commands to main buttons. I suggest using it for that and mapping look up to another key. I use the wheel click to look up.

Your probably going to have a lot of problems using that latch trigger. But you can try and turn off latch mode in SST, that is if your running SST. Even if you arent mapping in SST, or they call it Mad Catz programming now, it might be running in the background. Do you have the latest software/drivers installed?
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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2013, 11:00:23 AM »
dim all your LEDS it might save some juice :old:
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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2013, 07:04:04 PM »
reply my PC is a new build its less then a month and a half old 700 watt power supply i dont think thats the issue i think its the stick its self that broke already my first one lasted me 3 and a half years this one 3 months..meaning it was working in the same sortie and quit working in the same sortie i think it may have broke as much as i hate to think that.. and as far as remapping my look up button i could but ive used that button for over 3 years its what i am used to and i dont use the x52 throttle i got a duel throttle setup thats why i use it. this button is the only button that dont work in game so thats another sign saying its broke but yet every time i click it in windows it lights up thats what is wierd its only the pinky trigger
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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2013, 07:48:01 PM »
 open clipboard map,goto map controls,select the x52 and press the pinky button.

  If it's working it should highlite the button,it may not have the same number assigned as in the windows calibration gui.   If the button highlites,try remapping it to "look up".

  Even with a new build and 700 watts I'd still use a powered hub,some motherboards wont give enough power to the X52,depending on how many usb devices you have connected it's possible that the MB only gives the lowest power required.

  Generally you will see the lights flicker and loos calibration,you can turn off the lights and turn down the MDF display to reduce power draw but I'd still use a powered hub.

  The other issue X52's have is the cord between the throttle and JS,it can come loose and cause momentary power loss,I used some duct tape to hold the connector in place and then finally secured the wire so it couldn't move at all.

   Check to see if the game sees the pinky button and try remapping,if the game doesn't see the pinky button but windows does then it's possibly a DX issue and over my head....  If you cant solve the issue,hope you can return it for a new one and get a powered hub while your at it!

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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2013, 08:05:49 PM »
Aces high does is not picking up on the button it dont highlight. but it does highlight in windows. see if they will replace my joystick monday if not i guess ill order a new one and a usb hub
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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2013, 08:48:58 PM »
It could be any of a few things. My guess is there is a stuck key or a key that isnt mapping right. Did you try opening notebook and depressing the key? Or maybe it has something to do with SST being in Latch mode.

I must say its unusual to use the latch/pinkie button for such a task. Its supposed to be used to allow second commands to main buttons. I suggest using it for that and mapping look up to another key. I use the wheel click to look up.

Your probably going to have a lot of problems using that latch trigger. But you can try and turn off latch mode in SST, that is if your running SST. Even if you arent mapping in SST, or they call it Mad Catz programming now, it might be running in the background. Do you have the latest software/drivers installed?

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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2013, 02:40:09 AM »
And although you have a brand new computer with a powerful enough PSU, power can still be an issue. It's not due to poor craftmanship or low quality components, it's the nature of the USB ports. As I said, the ports are most likely paired, meaning two ports side by side sharing the same 1 ampere. So plugging your X52 side by side with another power-hungry controller the amperage might reach its limits. Today most devices are connected via USB, including keyboards and mice. Gaming gear also tends to have all sorts of illumination and other extra features all using the same single ampere. A powered hub can have higher amperage or at least the one ampere for each port. Just food for thought.

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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2013, 03:36:23 AM »
Aces high does is not picking up on the button it dont highlight. but it does highlight in windows. see if they will replace my joystick monday if not i guess ill order a new one and a usb hub


  Are you using the SST software?  If not,before you return it,load the software then open the control panel and start AH. Once ingame check to see if AH sees the pinky switch.

   Something else just occurred to me,you may need to install dx9c,depending on your OS,win7 you might not have the proper DX. Yes I know it's backwards compatable but I've heard of this issue with DX before.  Worth a try before paying for a new stick.

   Personally I'd put "look up" on the throttle to force me to keep my hand on the throttle all the time,but that's me.


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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2013, 07:11:39 AM »
Again, go into SST profile editor and when you see mode 1, mode 2, mode 3, you should also see "mode 1 + pinkie". If your not using SST its probably still running in the background so select "no fallback" instead of "mode 1 + pinkie". That should unmap your pinkie button. If you have the game mapped in SST then just map "up" to another button.

Make sure you dont have a default profile on start up in SST.

The problem might also have something to do with the enable clutch mode and Latched clutch button checked in Controller/MFD screen. You still have to tell us if your using the SST software or not.
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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2013, 03:46:23 PM »
no i dont use SST software... and my OP is win 7 64 bit
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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2013, 10:58:21 PM »
i installed the SST software tonight to see if the button was working there and it is the button shows it works in testing and in software but it still dont do anything in AH it still dont highlight all other buttons highlight other then just the pinky trigger it is so wierd i dont think a new stick will solve the issue and i unplugged everything from my computer other then mouse and keyboard and x52 still same thing so i dont think its a power issue. it just acts like AH will not pick up on that button for some reason
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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2013, 12:16:59 AM »
i installed the SST software tonight to see if the button was working there and it is the button shows it works in testing and in software but it still dont do anything in AH it still dont highlight all other buttons highlight other then just the pinky trigger it is so wierd i dont think a new stick will solve the issue and i unplugged everything from my computer other then mouse and keyboard and x52 still same thing so i dont think its a power issue. it just acts like AH will not pick up on that button for some reason

I found that mapping buttons on the throttle worked well for looking up & down...
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Re: X52 issue please help
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2013, 09:37:01 AM »
i installed the SST software tonight to see if the button was working there and it is the button shows it works in testing and in software but it still dont do anything in AH it still dont highlight all other buttons highlight other then just the pinky trigger it is so wierd i dont think a new stick will solve the issue and i unplugged everything from my computer other then mouse and keyboard and x52 still same thing so i dont think its a power issue. it just acts like AH will not pick up on that button for some reason



  Try leaving the x52 control panel open on the desktop and then start AH,see if the game will"see" the pinky button.

   If not,I suggest an email to support at hitechcreations and ask scuzzy about DX issues and win7.  As I said you may need to install an older version of DX.



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