The Toughest Aircraft in AH?

[Krusty]

Ki61.

First gen damage model. Might just be buggy like when the B-26 soaks up 15x 30mm rounds and doesn't go down. Wait til its remodeled, then see if it's the same.

[pervert]

I wouldn't list the Ki-84 as "durable"... it's average. It's not particularly weak, nor particularly strong. Definitely NOT amongst the Grumman birds in comparison.

Ohh believe me its more than durable, a burst that my FW would usually snap say a P51 in half takes about 3 for a ki84

[earl1937]

There were numerous aircraft in the game that proved that wrong prior to the introduction of the Me410.  Bf109s, for example, are much tougher than Spitfires while also being lighter.  P-51s are pretty heavy, but not particularly durable.  F4Fs are very durable, and no heavier than Spitfires.  The Ki-84, only as heavy as a late model Spitfire, is much more durable than Spitfires.

My list of "hard to kill" in Aces High!
#1- F6F
#2- F4U's (especially 1A's)
#3- Jug series, 47N being hardest
#4- B-17
#5- ME163's
#6- KI84
#7- FM2
#8- Tiger II Tank
#9- B-29
#10- Anything that shoots back at me!

[Krusty]

Ohh believe me its more than durable, a burst that my FW would usually snap say a P51 in half takes about 3 for a ki84

Ki84 is one of my favorite rides, behind only the C.205. I've flown it tons, and take damage just as easily as any other plane. It is, however, much more nimble and more likely to get a glancing blow as compared to the lumbering P-51, which must sit there and absorb all damage.

I also fly Fw190s quite a bit, and have on many an occasion popped a wayward Ki84 with one solid burst.

[Saxman]

I wouldn't list the Ki-84 as "durable"... it's average. It's not particularly weak, nor particularly strong. Definitely NOT amongst the Grumman birds in comparison.

I'd agree with this. The Ki-84 certainly stands out compared to the other Japanese birds, but the American iron (particularly the P-47, Wildcats, F6F and F4Us) is at another level altogether. What makes the Ki-84 difficult to bring down is less any toughness of the airframe than she is just plain difficult to hit in the first place. She's more tolerant of light snapshots than A6Ms and the Oscar, (and I'd argue the Ki-61 and N1K2, as well) but you do NOT want to take any sort of solid hit in one.

[SIK1]

I've found that the toughest plane in AH is generallythe one i am shooting at

lol +1

[Karnak]

I find the Ki-84 takes a lot more hits than the other single engined fighters I fly, particularly wing hits.

The Mosquito is very tough, but it is so big that it gets hit a lot more and that masks its durability.  Against the auto-ack it holds together better than any other fighter I fly by a huge margin.

[nrshida]

I find the Ki-84 takes a lot more hits than the other single engined fighters I fly, particularly wing hits.

The Mosquito is very tough, but it is so big that it gets hit a lot more and that masks its durability.  Against the auto-ack it holds together better than any other fighter I fly by a huge margin.

The Ki-84 should be as well, if you compare its construction to some of its peers. Of course you will invariably get a pilot wound if you receive much fire at all.

The Mosquito should also be pretty tough because of its structure and also the materials employed. I suspect it's slightly unrealistic to lose one wing.

I think most American aircraft, especially the blue planes, simply had an awful lot more structure and hence a good bit of structural redundancy.


Yaks, the previous versions at least, seemed to take about three times more hits to bring down and the Tempest is also very resilient in Aces High.

[Brooke]

For planes overall, the B-17, B-26, etc. are much tougher than fighters.

For planes that can dogfight, the A-20 seems to me to be the toughest, maybe followed by an Il-2.

Of planes that are specifically fighters, F6F's, F4U's, P-47's, F4F's, FM-2's, P-38's, and FW 190A's seem tough.  Maybe Bf 110's as well -- not sure.

Mossies don't seem very tough in my limited experience of flying them.

[Karnak]

Bf110 is less durable than the Mossie in the tests I have run.  This was a long time ago though and the Mossie's damage model has since been redone, but it got tougher not weaker.

All the big fighters seem more fragile as they catch proportionally more rounds, even a bit more due to lack of agility, while not being proportionally tougher.  Compare the A-20G's durability to the Me410, Mosquito, Bf110, P-38 and P-47.  Despite being only a bit bigger than those large fighters the A-20G is far, far tougher and I don't really see any justification for that.

[nrshida]

...the A-20G is far, far tougher and I don't really see any justification for that.

Could it be its relative 'emptiness' (not that I've ever really stuck around to see what's inside them, lol)?

[Karnak]

Could it be its relative 'emptiness' (not that I've ever really stuck around to see what's inside them, lol)?

It isn't big enough to have that much relative emptiness.

[thrila]

I agree with Brooke on the A20, i find it the most difficult of aircraft to down with a single burst.

[ink]

I wouldn't list the Ki-84 as "durable"... it's average. It's not particularly weak, nor particularly strong. Definitely NOT amongst the Grumman birds in comparison.

sorry buddy but you are very wrong......

it don't matter how much time you have "flying" it......

what matters is how much time you have "fighting" in it....I don't want to insult you but I have seen your "fighting" I guarantee I have put that Ki in far more fighting situations in 1 month then your entire time flying it.

the Ki84 is by far one of the toughest in ability to take damage......

[GScholz]

Bf109s, for example, are much tougher than Spitfires while also being lighter.

As a 109 driver I do not find it particularly durable. However it is very difficult to hit because of its size. The Spitfire's huge wings do attract more fire I suspect.