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Offline ntrudr

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Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« on: August 24, 2013, 12:24:09 PM »
An ENY of 18?, get a grip.  It should be 10 at the highest.  The plane does everything very well.

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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2013, 12:35:02 PM »
Its the only plane in here that do a can climb at 3.5k hanging in the prop at 95mph, +1
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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2013, 12:35:08 PM »
and it never bleeds any E.  ridiculous.  
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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2013, 01:43:48 PM »
All of the above.

10 in my book

Even on the balance of short ammo clips, the ammo is incredibly effective.

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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2013, 01:50:36 PM »
I can slow the Yak 9U down after I run up on someone's tail to shoot them. The best maneuver I have with the Yak3 is it seems to want to stick it's nose up other plane's exhaust pipes no matter what I do to stop it. That is one slick tiny airframe.
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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2013, 02:09:17 PM »
Deperk the Spit14 and perk yak3 :rofl

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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2013, 02:21:12 PM »
How about no?

Its usage is not nearly high enough to justify a 10, nor does its K/D ratio stand out as extreme in comparison with those units above it in usage:

PlaneKillsDeathsK/D Ratio
P-51D1162989911.29
Spitfire Mk XVI661258291.13
La-7640348811.31
F6F-5508853100.96
N1K2484045551.06
Fw 190D-9579834361.69
Bf 109K-4446833091.35
F4u-1A418129391.42
P-47M441125651.72
F4U-1D376046640.81
Ki-84-Ia416326701.56
A-20G352026221.34
Yak-3343624341.41
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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2013, 03:30:29 PM »
Using your own data it has a better K/D ratio than most of the planes you list, the few that have a better K/D ratio are known to be "expert" planes.

I would like to have seen one more column, the ENY value.


How about no?

Its usage is not nearly high enough to justify a 10, nor does its K/D ratio stand out as extreme in comparison with those units above it in usage:

PlaneKillsDeathsK/D Ratio
P-51D1162989911.29
Spitfire Mk XVI661258291.13
La-7640348811.31
F6F-5508853100.96
N1K2484045551.06
Fw 190D-9579834361.69
Bf 109K-4446833091.35
F4u-1A418129391.42
P-47M441125651.72
F4U-1D376046640.81
Ki-84-Ia416326701.56
A-20G352026221.34
Yak-3343624341.41

« Last Edit: August 24, 2013, 03:32:46 PM by ntrudr »

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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2013, 03:49:27 PM »
It's K/D is higher than the Spit16 and P51. . .

eny 10 or 8, IMO.

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« Last Edit: August 24, 2013, 03:52:54 PM by GhostCDB »
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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2013, 04:11:45 PM »
It's K/D is higher than the Spit16 and P51. . .

eny 10 or 8, IMO.

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And its use is a fraction of either.

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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2013, 04:24:26 PM »
Detailed stats breakdown (true air K/D!) in a few days with the start of the new tour...  ;)
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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2013, 04:31:56 PM »
I would like to have seen one more column, the ENY value.


I'll add that when I can, but I am at work and don't have access to ENY values.  My memory is not to be trusted like that.
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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2013, 05:18:29 PM »
at 18 its acceptable because with only 120 rounds for a 20mm, you have to have near perfect aim. Sure its a beast in the air, the ammo supply not so much, what 5-6 seconds at post on continue fire?

Consider this, if it had Two 20mms with 120 rounds each, i'd argue it would be 5 eny.
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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2013, 05:20:35 PM »
at 18 its acceptable because with only 120 rounds for a 20mm, you have to have near perfect aim. Sure its a beast in the air, the ammo supply not so much, what 5-6 seconds at post on continue fire?


Probably more like 10 or so.  Not sure what the rate of fire is, but I doubt it is twice, or more than twice, the Hispano's.  120 rounds for a Hispano MK II is 12 seconds.
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Re: Now that the Yak3 has been here a couple weeks.
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2013, 05:54:01 PM »
Probably more like 10 or so.  Not sure what the rate of fire is, but I doubt it is twice, or more than twice, the Hispano's.  120 rounds for a Hispano MK II is 12 seconds.

I was only guessing my apologies, but I took up a Yak3 the other night and scored 4 proxies and two kills, while true my aim is a little off - I had a couple of good second bursts into planes, and next thing I know my ammo was dry.
If you consider the Spitfire 9 with twin hispanos or even the Mk 8, I think the Yak is just fine.

I don't see many "Aces" scoring 5 kills and landing, I actually have an easier time landing more kills in a 109K since it takes only one round to down an aircraft.
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