Author Topic: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope  (Read 3947 times)

Offline muzik

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #60 on: September 17, 2013, 11:52:38 PM »
I realize Bozon didn't start his post by stroking your ego like Semp did, therefore preemptively mollifying your childish nature a bit, but he isn't going out of his way to be offensive because he can't handle a difference of opinion without getting irrationally pizzy .... like .... well .... you ... moo-sick

24 plane formations. Pffffft.

How you going to get a psych degree when you suck so bad at it? You confuse "handling a difference of opinion" with my distaste for thread bashing trolls. All of them, the overt ones who just come in swinging and the spineless covert ones who have pic fetishes, well... like you.

I responded to each and every one of those posts by "mirroring" their tones. Have you learned that word in the ACME Psych School yet?

What have you responded to in this thread? Why is it you are here again? Have you even commented on the OP once pic boy?

No, You just had an insecurity itch in your panties and decided to hump my ankle. I got news for you, no matter what they told you, it's not always a good idea to express yourself. It can be TOO revealing. Now we can all see what an insecure little girl you are.

So the real question now is this, which deep seated need is driving your behavior more, your desire to hump my ankle or a rematch in a two month old thread? Me thinks both. Bring it on pic boy.


Muzik,
You are just shooting in all direction in a mad rage. I almost feel sorry for you. Even the things I said that are good you jump to defend. I cannot have a discussion with you.

Less BBS wars, more dogfighting is in order.

Don't lie, you can't continue because you realized how uninformed you were.

Accepting when you are wrong and living up to it has a much healthier effect on your character than cliche'ish attempts at talking down to others on your way out the door.

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2013, 12:03:34 AM »
Gunners just need to do a better job, from my experience facing 999000, we really don't need mobile death stars since it can already be done.

I used to be an extremely good gunner myself, its far to easy to learn to track fighters and hit them at crazy ranges with hardly any effort what so ever.

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2013, 12:07:49 AM »
Gunners just need to do a better job, from my experience facing 999000, we really don't need mobile death stars since it can already be done.

I used to be an extremely good gunner myself, its far to easy to learn to track fighters and hit them at crazy ranges with hardly any effort what so ever.



Is that why so many others shoot like 999000?
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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2013, 08:26:37 AM »
Is that why so many others shoot like 999000?

Not everyone is at the top of their game, however the old saying goes "practice makes perfect". Just because you do fly only bombers, doesn't mean you will be an amazing gunner, to each of his own. Imagine if it was so easy everyone could be as good as 999? Then nobody would target bombers because they would be blasted out of the sky before getting close. I will only agree bombers could use better protection IF they have to fly at cruise speed only and fly at a specific alt, not this 30k with B-17s doing full speed crap we have in game.

Also the bombsite would need to be more accurate, bombs should not be pinpoint accuracy at 30k either. Fix the speed which bombers fly and the accuracy, then we can talk about firepower being adjusted for it.

However its not going to happen because the system we have now is just fine, buffs defend themselves just fine.

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2013, 11:54:26 AM »
I responded to each and every one of those posts by "mirroring" their tones. Have you learned that word in the ACME Psych School yet?

Mmmmmno. You went 'musik' on them. Let me explain. You related to the OP's wish, personally.
You took rejection of it, personally. You reacted on a personal level and not a logical one. Your M.O.
(modus operandi - the term is used to describe someone's habits) is to lash out irrationally (much
like you are doing now). You feel 'justified' because you take any sort of response that is not complete
and utter appreciation and total agreement as a personal attack on your 'character' and therefore think
you were 'reacting in turn.' You were not. Your behavior on the forum is childish and inane (silly, foolish,
stupid, fatuous, idiotic, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, senseless, asinine, frivolous, vapid). All the skill possible
in our favorite cartoon flying game can't mask that.

Like others, I feel sorry for you ... but not to the point where I won't call you on your behavior when it
happens. In any thread about anything.

You need help. Think of this as my contribution towards such.   :salute

By the way .... now that you actually have something to lash back at, feel free. Then compare it (and whatever
justification you feel) to your previous posts and the posts you were responding to. Look (I mean really look)
for the differences.  :aok
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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2013, 12:00:55 PM »
Mmmmmno. You went 'musik' on them. Let me explain. You related to the OP's wish, personally.
You took rejection of it, personally. You reacted on a personal level and not a logical one. Your M.O.
(modus operandi - the term is used to describe someone's habits) is to lash out irrationally (much
like you are doing now). You feel 'justified' because you take any sort of response that is not complete
and utter appreciation and total agreement as a personal attack on your 'character' and therefore think
you were 'reacting in turn.' You were not. Your behavior on the forum is childish and inane (silly, foolish,
stupid, fatuous, idiotic, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, senseless, asinine, frivolous, vapid). All the skill possible
in our favorite cartoon flying game can't mask that.

Like others, I feel sorry for you ... but not to the point where I won't call you on your behavior when it
happens. In any thread about anything.

You need help. Think of this as my contribution towards such.  :aok

If I had a gun with 3 bullets and I was locked in a room with Bin Laden, Hitler, Saddam and Zipp...  I would shoot Zipp 3 times.


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Offline Arlo

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2013, 12:11:12 PM »
I think the exposure's a little off (ptp).

Offline No9Squadron

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2013, 04:18:01 PM »
I think it's a good point. I'm 90% bomber pilot in AH and I found it unrealistic to watch a formation of 10 pilots swerve from an attack like a school of fish, all in perfect formation, like an airshow display team. I'm kinda glad the wingman mode is not perfect and that only some people use it, it's more like an option than an advantage. I don't have a problem with bombsight not activating autoguns as well, it makes it challenging and gives reasons to go-around and make second runs. If enemy fighters did their homework and are attacking the bombers when they are in the bombsight, then the fighters should be rewarded with a fight from a player, I think it's not realistic, but it is fair.

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #70 on: September 18, 2013, 06:32:41 PM »
No need for Auto Guns!  Introducing the new improved B-17WW!

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #71 on: September 18, 2013, 06:41:35 PM »
No need for Auto Guns!  Introducing the new improved B-17WW!



 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


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Offline muzik

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #72 on: September 18, 2013, 07:23:57 PM »

Not everyone is at the top of their game, however the old saying goes "practice makes perfect". Just because you do fly only bombers, doesn't mean you will be an amazing gunner, to each of his own. Imagine if it was so easy everyone could be as good as 999? Then nobody would target bombers because they would be blasted out of the sky before getting close. I will only agree bombers could use better protection IF they have to fly at cruise speed only and fly at a specific alt, not this 30k with B-17s doing full speed crap we have in game.

Also the bombsite would need to be more accurate, bombs should not be pinpoint accuracy at 30k either. Fix the speed which bombers fly and the accuracy, then we can talk about firepower being adjusted for it.

However its not going to happen because the system we have now is just fine, buffs defend themselves just fine.

Maybe not everyone is at the top of their game because as interesting as gunning from bombers is, it's not high on the list of things to do in this game.

Personally, I have little interest in gunning from bombers at all. Even if auto gunners were implemented that had slightly less accuracy or effectiveness as the average bomber pilot gunning for himself I would take that chance. That doesn't mean I don't want the option to gun, it means I want the choice to do it or not. Especially if fighters are coming at me from all directions.

Even with an extra gunner on-board, there is no way to "fairly" defend against multiple attackers from multiple directions.

Something else I forgot about the current system, when the aircraft you occupy explodes, many times the attacker has time enough to move positions and fire on the drones before you respawn in the other aircraft. The current system is not good for the game at all.

If bombers get their cruise speeds restricted, don't you think the fighters would too? And I'm all for historic alt restrictions or more to the point, performance restrictions. Bombing accuracy adjustments too.
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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #73 on: September 18, 2013, 07:35:16 PM »
Mmmmmno. You went 'musik' on them. Let me explain. You related to the OP's wish, personally.
You took rejection of it, personally. You reacted on a personal level and not a logical one. Your M.O.
(modus operandi - the term is used to describe someone's habits) is to lash out irrationally (much
like you are doing now). You feel 'justified' because you take any sort of response that is not complete
and utter appreciation and total agreement as a personal attack on your 'character' and therefore think
you were 'reacting in turn.' You were not. Your behavior on the forum is childish and inane (silly, foolish,
stupid, fatuous, idiotic, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, senseless, asinine, frivolous, vapid). All the skill possible
in our favorite cartoon flying game can't mask that.

Like others, I feel sorry for you ... but not to the point where I won't call you on your behavior when it
happens. In any thread about anything.

You need help. Think of this as my contribution towards such.   :salute

By the way .... now that you actually have something to lash back at, feel free. Then compare it (and whatever
justification you feel) to your previous posts and the posts you were responding to. Look (I mean really look)
for the differences.  :aok

No, let me explain. Twits with pics don't explain things to me. You can't even make a point without the copy and paste function. As evidenced by the blabbering drivel above.

And yes I am well aware of what M.O. means. I learned in the 70's when it was all the rage in TV detective series. Now TV detectives laugh when someone uses it.

You did get one thing right though, I will need help surgically removing you from my ankle it seems. Radiation or chemo. Whatever it takes.
Fear? You bet your life...but that all leaves you as you reach combat. Then there's a sense of great excitement, a thrill you can't duplicate anywhere...it's actually fun. Yes, I think it is the most exciting fun in the world. — Lt. Col. Robert B. "Westy" Westbrook, USAAF 6/<--lol@mod

Offline Arlo

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Re: Bomber auto-guns when on the scope
« Reply #74 on: September 18, 2013, 08:21:00 PM »
No, let me explain. Twits with pics don't explain things to me. You can't even make a point without the copy and paste function. As evidenced by the blabbering drivel above.

And yes I am well aware of what M.O. means. I learned in the 70's when it was all the rage in TV detective series. Now TV detectives laugh when someone uses it.

You did get one thing right though, I will need help surgically removing you from my ankle it seems. Radiation or chemo. Whatever it takes.


No. It's not me, hissy-boy. If it was, then you'd just have this sort of issue with me and me alone.

Hissy on.  :D