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Offline MiloMorai

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America's Cup
« on: September 08, 2013, 06:53:49 PM »
Anyone watching this on TV?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v2SLU_rlEA&feature=c4-overview&list=UU0gzXt1Ms4WVQ7tyGgjTmqA

AC72 Principal Dimension
Hull Length    22 m (72.2 ft)
Maximum Beam    14 m (45.9 ft)
Mast Height    40 m (131.2 ft)
Maximum Draft    4.40 m (14.4 ft)
Displacement    5900 kg (13007.2 pd)
Wing Area    260 sq m (2798.6 sq ft)
Jib Area    80 sq m (861.1 sq ft)
Gennaker Area    320 sq m (3444.5 sq ft)
Crew    11 people

Top speed ~45mph

Offline Shamus

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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 10:19:08 PM »
I quit following the cup when they went multi-hull.

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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2013, 10:43:57 PM »
I've never even heard of that before but that was awesome! Those boats were literally flying!

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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2013, 08:02:05 AM »
I've never even heard of that before but that was awesome! Those boats were literally flying!

What happens when they do a nose stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFjxEfg_mEw&list=TLGdKJiALBGPs9DIt6aig5qVWIyAbN0SJ5

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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2013, 03:25:05 PM »
Those guys are freakin good at that stuff... during training on the Waitamata Harbour they were zipping in and around all the yachts and fizz boats  ther was not much room to move...infact the skippers of all the yachts were complaining to the harbour master due to not being able to get into positon for the race start due to so many vessels in and on the course.... it was unreal watching them...it was Auckland anniversary day regatta so there was boats everywhere, they estimated between 9 & 10000... and next to no wind....(we were having to use the motor at some stages just to maneuver enough not to hit other boats)..... at one point Dean Barker had his (these boats are freaks they turn the slightest wind into energy) .. ....bow pointed straight at us...came to within a distance that I could have leaned out and touched it and turned it around and in behind and past us...And he just looks and smiles while we are all thinking uhoh...this wont be good....(well I was..the skipper was just saying watch this)

Once the wind picked up a bit and we got out of the bustle....just watching those guys work was amazing..

It is a pity the Americas cup is such a political thing...ruins it for me personally....they just try and find dirt on people...it is worse than this BBS can be.  :D
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2013, 03:38:12 PM »
I quit following the cup when they went multi-hull.

shamus

Too bad, it's faster then it has ever been and the racing is closer than it has ever been.  I would like to see them make each race longer, more legs to complete because the boats are so fast it's over inless than half the time than it was with single hull designs.  I've always thought that it should be the best crews with the fastest boats they could make.  This is unlimited racing.  There are still plenty of classes of sailboat racing where mono hulls compete against each other.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2013, 05:56:16 PM »
its a great watch...its turning in to a race now..
c`mon the kiwis
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 07:54:18 PM »
be fun to watch if they where in sail boats, not space craft.......yawn :frown:
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2013, 08:16:09 PM »
I quit following the cup when they went multi-hull.

shamus
+1 This isn't yacht racing, it's catamaran racing. They killed the sport in 1983 when they allowed Australia to redefine what was a 12 meter yacht. That was the slippery slope that led to this.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2013, 09:02:19 PM »
+1 This isn't yacht racing, it's catamaran racing. They killed the sport in 1983 when they allowed Australia to redefine what was a 12 meter yacht. That was the slippery slope that led to this.

Indy should go back to front engine cars and a riding mechanic.

GP/F1 racing was killed when it went to rear engines and wings.

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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2013, 10:26:17 PM »
Indy should go back to front engine cars and a riding mechanic.

GP/F1 racing was killed when it went to rear engines and wings.
When Indy starts running on 2 wheels that argument will be valid.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2013, 08:02:59 AM »
Wow, that's a lot of sail :aok
Look at the listed square feet.




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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2013, 08:27:56 AM »
+1 This isn't yacht racing, it's catamaran racing. They killed the sport in 1983 when they allowed Australia to redefine what was a 12 meter yacht. That was the slippery slope that led to this.

So true, I raced one design mono hulls up to the national level back in the 70's. I also spent enough time in Hobie's and Tornado's to know the difference between multi/mono hulls. You are right the 12 meter days were the heyday of the sport, crews mattered then.
Might as well enter F-16's in the Reno race and say "hey its for unlimited aircraft right?".

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Offline Zoney

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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2013, 10:43:44 AM »
The main point of racing in any sport promotes the development of faster vehicles.  At some point constraints must be put in place if the vehicle developed is too fast for the venue.  An example of that would be restrictor plates in nascar racing, or in MotoGP racing, the downsizing of engines as the motorcycles exceed the safety parameters of the tracks.  Unlimited aircraft racing has it's constraints also, one of them being it must be a piston driven aircraft.  The governing body of America's Cup racing made a decision to not exclude multi hulled craft from its design constraints.  Just like at one point they decided that 12 meters would be the maximum hull length.  As I stated before, there are plenty of mono hull classes that you can still compete in if that is your definition of the purist sport of sailing.

The multi hulled designs have not exceeded safety concerns, nor is there a concern that the speeds have exceeded the safety concerns of the venues they are held in.  The developments that the America's Cup bring forth trickle down to many aspects of the sport of sailing and are judged by those that make the rules to be included in allowable specifications or not.  You guys meak it sound like the multi-hulls have ruined the sport and that is where we differ.  They have changed the sport, yes, but there are many like me who want to see what man can do with sails, wind and water and just how far and how fast we can go with it.  There is no doubt that the America's Cup is an event that brings enough excitement that the general public will turn out in droves to watch it and support it.  Many of those spectators will be inspired to purchase their own craft and join in on the fun that can be had sailing all over the world.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2013, 03:17:55 PM »
US is only mad because the Aussies or Kiwi's always seem to win it :rofl :rofl



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