SdKfz 251

[lyric1]

Some additional info.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/105083364/Intelligence-Bulletin-Mar-1945

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97968970/S040-Waffen-Arsenal-Sonderband-Deutsche-Nebelwerfer-1934-1945

http://www.scribd.com/doc/101969254/D-1124-Der-28-32-cm-Nebelwerfer-41-Vorlaufige-Geratebeschreibung-1942

http://www.scribd.com/doc/101970842/Wurfkorper-28-32-cm-der-deutschen-Schlachtflieger

http://www.scribd.com/doc/101970494/D-444-2839-Die-28-32-cm-Munition-des-Nebelwerfers-41-01-01-1943

http://www.wehrtechnikmuseum.de/Noch_Fragen_/Antworten/Pressluftgranaten/pressluftgranaten.html

This link says 5 deg to 40 deg range of motion.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2001/07/stuff_eng_herbst_stukazufuss.htm

http://www.lonesentry.com/ordnance/tag/28cm

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=78447

5 deg to 40 deg in this one as well.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129416506/Germany-s-Sd-Kfz-251-Series-Half-Tracks-doc

[Lusche]

I have wondered before why the rockets on the SdKfz did not get their own station just like they do in the PT boat. That way you could adjust the firing angle with your joystick while in sortie (that movement could be made very slow to simulate the manual adjustment)

[lyric1]

I have wondered before why the rockets on the SdKfz did not get their own station just like they do in the PT boat. That way you could adjust the firing angle with your joystick while in sortie (that movement could be made very slow to simulate the manual adjustment)

Not a bad idea Or you could make it like the 88's.
Come to a complete stop select rockets then use C & V to dial in an angle with the degrees changing in the top corner. The photos I posted show it was a cumbersome process to load each rocket at least 5 guys at a time to change them out.

[HawkerMKII]

http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=232

[RngFndr]

You are correct. That turret was mounted on several armoured cars. It was mounted on the Puma to create the 234/1 of which around 200 were built.

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Hmmm, i always thought the "Puma" moniker was bestowed on the 50mm version of the 234..
Never heard of the name being used as generic to all the 8wheelers..

If so, it's news to me..

[hammer]

These two pics certainly make it look like a fully adjustable angle

[RngFndr]

Oh?  Be specific.  In what ways?  The only real advantage a mortar would have would be range, especially in AH.

Ability to fire High Angle from reverse slope..

In general, a mortar shell will have a higher capacity of HE filler than an equal caliber of Arty shell, because the casing of the projectile can be made thinner.. Yielding a larger blast radius and more destructive power against soft targets like buildings and Hangars..

Can't find the weight of the HE fill in the 75 or the 81 tho..
Can't go by total weight, because of the thicker iron casing of the HE Arty shell makes them heavier every time..
Iron is heavier than TNT filler ya know, lol.. So i can't make an exact comparison..

A mortar has no AT capacity tho, can't fire HEAT and HESH rounds, so it could only run from Tanks..
And without a system for indirect fire in the game, I suppose a Mortar Barrage from the Reverse slope, wouldn't be feasible in the game..

So I guess you are right, the game just ain't ready for Mortar Barrages yet.

[save]

well the nebelwerfers where called "Stuka zu fuss" 

[TGG93]

Hmmm, i always thought the "Puma" moniker was bestowed on the 50mm version of the 234..
Never heard of the name being used as generic to all the 8wheelers..

If so, it's news to me..

I'm generalising as I admit I do not know an awful lot about German armoured cars. The 234/1 was essentially the same vehicle as the 234/2 "Puma", the only difference being the swapped out turret. But yes, the Puma name officially only referred to the 50mm version.

[RngFndr]

I'm generalising as I admit I do not know an awful lot about German armoured cars. The 234/1 was essentially the same vehicle as the 234/2 "Puma", the only difference being the swapped out turret. But yes, the Puma name officially only referred to the 50mm version.

It's OK man.. It's a game centered on things that happened a long time ago..
Kinda frivolous considering all that is happening in the world right now..
Puma scruma, It's a small thing, no matter.. I'm not one of those guys that get
Hyper anal about this stuff..  

50mm puma turret would look pretty sweet on an enclosed 251 tho..
Actually surprised they didn't try it, they weren't shy about any other combos..

[Denniss]

"Puma" was never used for the 234/2 - common myth - and for not for the whole 234 series. And the "Puma" turret was a "Leopard" turret (from the cancelled Panzer II (VK 16.02)).
The 2cm turret of the Sd. Kfz. 222 was used on multiple vehicles like 250/9 recon halftrack or the Panzer 38(t) recon tank from 1944. From ~1941 on it used the KwK 38 instead of the older KwK 30. From 42 or 43 on it was installed in a Hängelafette so it could be used against aircraft (high gun elevation).

[lyric1]

Amazing what you can buy.


http://www.suedsteiermarkversand.at/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=Archivflypage.tpl&category_id=322&product_id=3623&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7

[Arlo]

May make an interesting planter.

[lyric1]

This link says 16 deg to 45 deg

 http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/dragon/dr6284.htm

[Lone82]

+1000  great wish