SdKfz 251

[alpini13]

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++100   YES!

[Mister Fork]

+1. Equalizer to the M3!

[lyric1]

+1. Equalizer to the M3!

Speaking of M3'S look what the Germans did with theirs.



Yep rocket launchers.

[lyric1]

Playing about with this photo & I noticed a couple of things of interest?? Well at least to me. 



After enlarging it & cropping the rear launcher.



I can see that each pivot plate has two locking clamps shown in red.

Also shown in yellow I think this is a pendulum or a plump bob that was used to determine what angle the actual vehicle was sitting. You can see what looks like a small scale half way down the shaft.

[R 105]

 

I have wondered before why the rockets on the SdKfz did not get their own station just like they do in the PT boat. That way you could adjust the firing angle with your joystick while in sortie (that movement could be made very slow to simulate the manual adjustment)

[SmokinLoon]

What I REALLY wish for is to not only have the rocket crates able to be set at specific angles, but also for their to be some kind of range finder to use as well.  This goes for the PT boat and the M4A3 Calliope as well.  While I can't vouch for how the PT boat crews or Sherman Calliope crews ranged their rockets I can say the Germans used a rangefider of some sort (I'll have to look up the exact model name).

Since this is an indirect source of fire, I'd hope there would be some help in ranging.

[lyric1]

What I REALLY wish for is to not only have the rocket crates able to be set at specific angles, but also for their to be some kind of range finder to use as well.  This goes for the PT boat and the M4A3 Calliope as well.  While I can't vouch for how the PT boat crews or Sherman Calliope crews ranged their rockets I can say the Germans used a rangefider of some sort (I'll have to look up the exact model name).

Since this is an indirect source of fire, I'd hope there would be some help in ranging.

Been talked about before.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,308839.0.html

This would have been one of them that could have been used.

LUFFK-001

4TH picture in the link.

http://snyderstreasures.com/pages/optics.htm

[Skyguns MKII]

 

[Reaper90]

Absolute +1000 to fully adjustable launch angle on the rockets, and +EleventyBillion to the 75mm Pak 40 variant.

[Hap]

I don't use the 251 often.  I wish I did.

[lyric1]

Squad mate found this book on line. It is exactly what I have been looking for to answer all we need to know & enough info that HTC can use for an update. If they choose to do so.
Thank you Chalenge for this link.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52160248/Field-Rocket-Equipment-of-the-German-Army-1939-1945?2=0

This book has a lot of detail on how they used the SdKfz 251/1.

First off our HTC vehicle fires the rockets in the wrong order.
Small detail really.



The angles for the rockets. 5 deg - 45 deg.



Also the range and adjustments of the rockets with this chart.



Also this photo that shows how they figured out the range.




I cropped & enlarged the fellow in this picture.



So the man in the photo is using this or something like it.



This is the view through the rabbit ears that I could find.



Few links on the rabbit ears.


http://www.thegermanwarmachine.com/photogallery/3/index.aspx

http://www.panzergrenadier.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=8545

Like the slide rule info in this link.
http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/43794-french-army-military-periscope-rabbit-ear-binoculars/

http://bunkersite.com/bunkeroptik/optics/kreis.php

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ww-ii-german-french-military-138692364

http://tedbrink.webs.com/germany12.htm

[Hap]

 

[RngFndr]

Ah, a stereoscopic Rangefinder.. Wished for that a million times!
Now who would have possibly thought that they might have one of those??
They were common as dirt in all the armies/navies of the world during WW2..

+1, But I ain't holdin my breath.. Would kinda equalize things a bit for
some who can't judge range for squat.. Make for almost no ranging shots needed..

Every "gunner" should have access to one of those.. 17lbers, 88's, all Naval Rifles..
The Bigger they were, (wider between the oculars) the more accurate they were..
Some German tanks had them built in to the Turrets near the end of the war..

All ships had Great Big One sitting way up on top.. It was combined with the
Gun director that would aim all the guns simultaneously.. Big Boom Boom!
Shore Batteries should have the same kind of Rangefinder/Director as ships too..

I don't even know if it would be possible to coad that.. Look thru it, seeing a double image,
then rotate the knob or dial/handle, until the 2 images coincide into one, then read the range..
Hmmm??? Sounds complicated to me..

[SmokinLoon]

Squad mate found this book on line. It is exactly what I have been looking for to answer all we need to know & enough info that HTC can use for an update. If they choose to do so.
Thank you Chalenge for this link.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52160248/Field-Rocket-Equipment-of-the-German-Army-1939-1945?2=0

This book has a lot of detail on how they used the SdKfz 251/1.

First off our HTC vehicle fires the rockets in the wrong order.
Small detail really.



The angles for the rockets. 5 deg - 45 deg.



Also the range and adjustments of the rockets with this chart.



Also this photo that shows how they figured out the range.




I cropped & enlarged the fellow in this picture.



So the man in the photo is using this or something like it.



This is the view through the rabbit ears that I could find.



Few links on the rabbit ears.


http://www.thegermanwarmachine.com/photogallery/3/index.aspx

http://www.panzergrenadier.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=8545

Like the slide rule info in this link.
http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/43794-french-army-military-periscope-rabbit-ear-binoculars/

http://bunkersite.com/bunkeroptik/optics/kreis.php

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ww-ii-german-french-military-138692364

http://tedbrink.webs.com/germany12.htm

COPY AND PASTED!!!!  That is some great info, I'm confident that HTC will follow through with allowing for adjustable ranging.  If we know the angles, we know the approximate ranges!  Nice!!!   

[lyric1]

Some more rabbit ear stuff this link also has graticule pictures in the first link.

http://www.fieldgear.org/optics.htm

http://www.fieldgear.org/sf14.htm

http://www.fieldgear.org/sf14serviced.htm

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/viewtopic.php?id=418

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=614450