NYC Bikers chase down SUV

[kappa]

I grew up with real bikers, outlaw bikers. Specifically the outlaws and Black widows in Florida. You run into supporters mostly, people who want to be associated, that are the biggest assclowns you will ever meet. "Oh I know this guy blah blah". I know the chapter president and treasurer, hell they even talked me into buying an old 1978 harley fatboy to fix up.

did you just call yourself an assclown here? lol


outlaw bikers.. haha

[Shuffler]

Bunch of pansies.

This is why CHL is great. This man chose to let the police protect him and his family.

[guncrasher]

Bunch of pansies.

This is why CHL is great. This man chose to let the police protect him and his family.

what does the central hockey league have anything to do with this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHL_%281963-84%29

on a serious note, you can sit back and play what if after the fact.  what if he had a gun and the bikers also had theirs?  what if they had taken the gun away from him and shot him with it,  what if...  there's lots of what ifs.  I'd like to think that he would have pulled out his gun and they bikers would have left him alone but what if they hadnt?

I always have one next to me when I play as i always use a headset.  but what if I had a CHL and that day when I stopped at the 7-11 to buy a beer after work at 2 pm and the cop that thought I looked suspicious enough to put his hand in his gun.  what if he had seen it...

what if several people in that dark theater would have had a gun, how many more would have died?  or perhaps only the shooter would have been killed after only firing a couple of guns.

we all can play what if's all day long, but the truth is that you cannot undo what has already been done.



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[HL117]

A Biker is not the same thing as a motorcyclist...

I approve of this message, currently riding a 1986 Suzuki GSXR 750 to and from work on the nice days 

  Cannot really say I have ever ridden a motorcycle I didn't like, the Atlas mini bike I rode when I was 8 or 9 even was a blast, I ride because 2 wheels moves the soul were 4 just move the body don't really care what image any particular bike projects, Dad has an new Ultra Glide, very sweet ride also...........would love to get a BMW K1200R-Sport, if I can get the wife's buy-in.

[doright]

...what if...
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How come the what ifs always seem to center on a firearm being used in a hero scenario. They never seem to include the statistically more likely scenario of a firearm being used on a loved one or themselves?

Of course everyone knows statistics only apply to others.

[CAP1]

what does the central hockey league have anything to do with this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHL_%281963-84%29

on a serious note, you can sit back and play what if after the fact.  what if he had a gun and the bikers also had theirs?  what if they had taken the gun away from him and shot him with it,  what if...  there's lots of what ifs.  I'd like to think that he would have pulled out his gun and they bikers would have left him alone but what if they hadnt?

I always have one next to me when I play as i always use a headset.  but what if I had a CHL and that day when I stopped at the 7-11 to buy a beer after work at 2 pm and the cop that thought I looked suspicious enough to put his hand in his gun.  what if he had seen it...

what if several people in that dark theater would have had a gun, how many more would have died?  or perhaps only the shooter would have been killed after only firing a couple of guns.

we all can play what if's all day long, but the truth is that you cannot undo what has already been done.



semp

if they had theirs, they'd have used them. me? i'd personally prefer to be the one to decide if i have an option besides running.........

[Masherbrum]

yeah no bikers in that bunch, just a bunch of punks, and if I were in that vehicle there would have been some smashed bikes too

Ditto.

[Slash27]

How come the what ifs always seem to center on a firearm being used in a hero scenario. They never seem to include the statistically more likely scenario of a firearm being used on a loved one or themselves?

Of course everyone knows statistics only apply to others.

Hero scenario? I would think of it more as your duty or even instinct to protect you're loved ones from a violent mob. Part of owning a firearm is taking the responsibility to train and be proficient in case you're unfortunate to find yourself in such a situation.

[Widewing]

For the record, the numbskull who won't walk again was the felon who used his bike to block the Range Rover when the driver stopped after the initial road bump of the first idiot. Stupidly, the knucklehead remained in the saddle. When the Range Rover guy realized it was time to get him and his family out of there, he drove over Mr. Stupid and his bike. Viciousness has its consequences.

Where the Range Rover driver screwed up was to stop. When traffic got in his way, he should have reversed and knocked down whoever was behind him. Indeed, there was nothing any of the punks could do, besides skedaddle. A 5,000 lb Range Rover cannot be stopped by less than speed bump quality rice burners. He could have crushed them until they fled.... He should have, filling every emergency room on the west side of Manhattan.

[uptown]

I grew up with real bikers, outlaw bikers. Specifically the outlaws and Black widows in Florida. You run into supporters mostly, people who want to be associated, that are the biggest assclowns you will ever meet. "Oh I know this guy blah blah". I know the chapter president and treasurer, hell they even talked me into buying an old 1978 harley fatboy to fix up. Problem is however, I was college educated and when I seen 5 bikers die in my area (accidents mostly) I gave up the project and sold it off.
Here the real bikers get associates and supporters to do the work, young guns who have something to prove because they are dumb enough to do it because they want to be associated. The old school outlaws are all in prison, most have life sentences.
What this video shows (and its not the first time trust me, I know the new york group, it pops up on motorcycle pages now and then) they have done this bullying tactic 2-3 times. Young punks just trying to feel invisible and bullying.

/I never associated, but fact is I never felt safer then in a biker bar - long as you say yes sir and no sir they never bother you. Call someone an "old timer" or "grandpa" you are liable to have your bellybutton beat when you goto the bathroom.
//Not a supporter either, its just heavily influenced in my area because Gangs took over the area long ago, and then the Bikers moved in to clear them out the 4 bars on my road are all outlaw motorcycle bars, with a supporter club house somewhere in the area as well

 I bet your 77 "Fatboy" was a panhead too.    

[guncrasher]

if they had theirs, they'd have used them. me? i'd personally prefer to be the one to decide if i have an option besides running.........

given a choice between a firearm and an suv and we talking here looking back, I would have chosen the suv.  I would have hit at least 10 or 20 bikers.  those that were down would have brought many more down too.  if they were that determined to kill me, a gun wouldnt have stopped them either.  but sure as hell I can bring down a lot more with an suv than with a gun.

and i am talking about this situation only.  like I said before, in this situation you can argue to death which would be a better defense, use the suv to ram everybody, or stopping being surrounded by 30 or 40 bikers and trying to shoot as many as you can.

I dont think there's a right or wrong choice only "what if's.."


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For the record, the numbskull who won't walk again was the felon who used his bike to block the Range Rover when the driver stopped after the initial road bump of the first idiot. Stupidly, the knucklehead remained in the saddle. When the Range Rover guy realized it was time to get him and his family out of there, he drove over Mr. Stupid and his bike. Viciousness has its consequences.

Where the Range Rover driver screwed up was to stop. When traffic got in his way, he should have reversed and knocked down whoever was behind him. Indeed, there was nothing any of the punks could do, besides skedaddle. A 5,000 lb Range Rover cannot be stopped by less than speed bump quality rice burners. He could have crushed them until they fled.... He should have, filling every emergency room on the west side of Manhattan.

absafriggenlutly



"biker gang off road setting"...

[Scherf]

(Image removed from quote.)

For the record, the numbskull who won't walk again was the felon who used his bike to block the Range Rover when the driver stopped after the initial road bump of the first idiot. Stupidly, the knucklehead remained in the saddle. When the Range Rover guy realized it was time to get him and his family out of there, he drove over Mr. Stupid and his bike. Viciousness has its consequences.

Where the Range Rover driver screwed up was to stop. When traffic got in his way, he should have reversed and knocked down whoever was behind him. Indeed, there was nothing any of the punks could do, besides skedaddle. A 5,000 lb Range Rover cannot be stopped by less than speed bump quality rice burners. He could have crushed them until they fled.... He should have, filling every emergency room on the west side of Manhattan.

From what I can see of the vid of Brake-Test boy's court appearance, he ain't injured, and in the original video it looks like he didn't even come off his bike.

Speed-Bump-Boy's family have apparently retained Gloria Allred, what a perfect match for the little snake. I take it there's juries in civil trials in NY? "No, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client was not involved in an unlawful confinement and a vicious attack on a family, he was checking on another rider who was, um, uninjured and was, um staying in his saddle to um, better facilitate the checking and, um, stayed in the saddle to um, restrain the, um, non-vicious attack on the, um, family in the SUV who are, um, like, rich and stuff, unlike my client who, um, is, ah, um..."

[Scherf]

Holy crap, it gets worse, seen this link to Speed-Bump Boy's Opus of self-love?

http://item.liveleak.com/2/view?i=2e2_1380707420&comments=1

The painted face pic deserves to be Photoshopped into this, but I've not the skill:

http://www.thelookmachine.com/uploads/2008/06/A%20Clockwork%20Orange.jpg

Hoisted with his own petard, as the Bard might say.

[CAP1]

given a choice between a firearm and an suv and we talking here looking back, I would have chosen the suv.  I would have hit at least 10 or 20 bikers.  those that were down would have brought many more down too.  if they were that determined to kill me, a gun wouldnt have stopped them either.  but sure as hell I can bring down a lot more with an suv than with a gun.

and i am talking about this situation only.  like I said before, in this situation you can argue to death which would be a better defense, use the suv to ram everybody, or stopping being surrounded by 30 or 40 bikers and trying to shoot as many as you can.

I dont think there's a right or wrong choice only "what if's.."


semp

 oohh....don't get me wrong. in a situation like that, where he lives in a state that's stolen his rights, i'd have done exactly what he did. 'cept more of them would be paying. i would not have gotten off of the highway at all. i'd have had whomever was with me in the vehicle on with 911 getting some dam police out there, as i continued driving.
 at the end of that video, i still think he should've put it in reverse, and tried leaving again.

 i can't say much more on this subject here without earning a vacation, which i don't wanna do........