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Offline Aspen

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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2013, 02:34:57 PM »
One night we decided to try and get back a couple cvs that had gone missing as we now owned the ports. 6 of us flew all over the map and finally found them basically in the two most likely hiding spots which were the two farthest points you could put them from our bases.  When we went in and sunk the first one we were accused of shading.  When we arrived at the second we couldn't find it.  It had been sailed off the map and they were waiting for us.  Not sure which map, but none of us knew there was a little strip where no damage occurs off the edge.  We saw one of our attackers fly out of a green wall so we flew in there and found the cv.  Put ords on it with no effect and I think we all eventually died on the "normal" side of the wall.  Ironic that the guys defending it were the same ones accusing us of shady tactics  :D

I think most NOE missions that are found are by chance or someone popping dar or flashing bases.  If I see a split second dar bar or a base flashing that looks out of place I often up take a look.  Usually its nothing important but once in a while you save a base just in the nick of time or find a mission.
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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2013, 02:53:37 PM »
Oh some of you in this thread make me giggle. 

All and all Earl I had a blast, killed a La and Dora, and enjoyed the company of some real nice people.  Even got to hear Semp pat himself on his back for killing my single B24.  So it was fun and I do it again!


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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2013, 03:07:57 PM »
But 'spies' are so much easier to blame than applying a little self critique and evaluation of mistakes.....


Its easier to place the blame on Spies, its been a common theme to place the blame the evaluate mistakes of the mission.
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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2013, 03:47:20 PM »
Oh some of you in this thread make me giggle.  

All and all Earl I had a blast, killed a La and Dora, and enjoyed the company of some real nice people.  Even got to hear Semp pat himself on his back for killing my single B24.  So it was fun and I do it again!

thats great. As long as you are having fun keep doing it. Just dont blame the spyz. Well, you didn't. It is detected to the op.

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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2013, 03:59:33 PM »
You already figured out how to cut back on the problem. Don't run NOE. NOE like you said is "fish in the barrel". Climb to alt and and the easy kills are gone and you have you mission because the dweebs don't want to have to work for them.

NOE is History correct as bomber and attack missions were indeed ran NOE. And its fun bringing heavy bombers in on the deck in a coordinated attack.

Its a sad day indeed when players should be expected to change the style of their play due to cheaters. I think they should be out'ed. I pretty much stopped participating in NOE missions cause of this, the mystery Typhie always appearing right on schedule.
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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2013, 04:09:58 PM »
Dedalos correct me if I am wrong is English your second language ?

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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2013, 04:19:10 PM »
I believe he's a Turk immigrant.

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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2013, 04:29:33 PM »
I believe he's a Turk immigrant.

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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2013, 04:29:45 PM »
Its a sad day indeed when players should be expected to change the style of their play due to cheaters. I think they should be out'ed. I pretty much stopped participating in NOE missions cause of this, the mystery Typhie always appearing right on schedule.

The OP's mission wasn't busted because of cheaters.  It was busted because some alert Knights were able to detect the raid and called it out on country channel as I already explained in my previous post.

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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2013, 04:31:11 PM »
Dedalos correct me if I am wrong is English your second language ?

You'd speak funny too if you were locked up in a tower for years and the only way to escape was to make wings out of wax and feathers.

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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2013, 04:31:22 PM »
Dedalos correct me if I am wrong is English your second language ?

yeah, although it feels like I only have second languages lol
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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2013, 04:32:37 PM »
You'd speak funny too if you were locked up in a tower for years and the only way to escape was to make wings out of wax and feathers.

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oh crap. Dont bring back those memories please  :cry
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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2013, 04:47:20 PM »
I was in this mission in one of the NOE B-24's.  And yes, there was a player several of us recognized on ET's mission vox who was also one of the first players to attack us 15 or 20 minutes later.

But apparently Ack-Ack and others also found us legitimately, so either way the mission was found out.  I lost all 3 of my B-24's but got 4 kills in the process, so had a good time regardless :)
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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2013, 05:52:52 PM »
:airplane: These guys in here tickle me! All they want to do is shoot down a/c or blow up tanks! They could care less about historical events which I try to re-enact in the MLW arena, and don't bother about the scenario's, they are OK if that is your bag. Personally, I like to plan the mission, fly the mission and am greatly disappointed if I don't get all my bombers home safe. But I forget sometimes, this is just a game, where you point guns or bombs at something, blow it up or shoot it down, get just as much good feeling as shooting BB guns down at the trash dump, killing rats.
I just try to give the guys a little different taste for the "game" and make it interesting to attend our squad night missions! Sorry if that distrubes some people, who only want to furball or tank battles.
What I do when I run up on a set of enemy bombers, or a enemy CV, I put it out on country in the text buffer, I don't alert everybody in all three countries on 200. I just think that is NOT the way the game should be played!

Your thread title sums up exactly how your thread made me feel once reading it. I am really glad your mission was foiled, wish I had been online to help.

Sorry General Aces Imperial High Air Marshall earl that some people who joined the game to shoot down red guys disturbs some people who just want to drop bombs to disturb the other guy from being able to play the way he wants and does not want to take the risk of being shot down themselves.

You have been told over and over there are arenas and special events that are designed exactly for the things you like. Stop crying that the MA doesn't know how they are supposed to play. In fact, every time you are given the solutions to your complaints you simply refuse to acknowledge them as viable and resort to how amused you are that people have dissenting opinions because of your sagacity or what ever. We thank you your service and experience, (you are not the only one though), but I, for one, have had about enough of it as it applies to the game. This is not real, nor is it supposed to be real "like". I know you have not been flying for long, but continue over posting with these same game play isn't right posts and you will begin alienating more and more people. The MA is a free for all, not the AvA or FSO or anything else.

Dude, it's great you like to play the way "you" like to play in the MA. I just wish you would stop coming in here the day after complaining that everyone else took your fun away by playing differently. You want to change the rules of the game so that your style of play lives and change the planes to ones you think are better. How about a happy medium, you play your style within the current game limitations and let others play their way within the current game limitations, salute each other when one of you shoots the other down and re-up without the BBS drama. Every other day is a complaint, whine or new wish for the game to be changed to make everyone play your way. There are a few hundred varying opinions on what is fun in the game, at least be open to the fact that not everyone has to enjoy the game exactly the same as yourself. Frankly, most of the last changes that have been made have made the game less and less fun for me personally, but you bomber drivers have seemed to enjoy it. I guess it won't be enough until you guys can land every sortie unchallenged, or is it that you just want everyone of your "historic" missions to succeed?

 Okay, I've annoyed you enough and you me. The ignore list fills up quick. Try to have more fun in the game, it will offset the lack of fun I have been getting out of it and the universe will remain in balance.  :D

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Re: Sorry State of Affairs!
« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2013, 06:11:53 PM »
I was on last night when this mission was run against us and it was detected by some of us that then called out the mission on country channel.

I was the first to call out the mission as I noticed a 'dar bar that had been steadily traveling across a couple of sectors.  Because of the time the 'dar bar took to move from sector to sector, I figured out it was most likely bombers and the path seemed to be headed to our strats or the base closest to the strats.  Watching the 'dar bar travel, the enemy mission had traveled far enough into one sector that some dots would appear on 'dar and then quickly disappear a few seconds later.  This is a pretty good indicator that the pilots were trying to stay under 'dar and some weren't doing a very good job of it and I called out a NOE mission.  I made the mistake, since the few dots that would appear briefly seemed to be on a path to the base near the strats, called out the NOE mission target as the base.  A few minutes later, someone else on the Knight side correctly ID'd the target as the strats and repeatedly called out a NOE raid on the strats, which caused a number of Knights to drop what they were doing and intercept the NOE strat raiders.  At no time did anyone that was previously on the Rookie side call out your mission to bust it, it was busted because the pilots in your mission weren't able to stay below 'dar and gave away your location and some of us know how to read the 'dar to identify raids and attacks such as this.

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:airplane: We were NOT showing any dar and we had a/c in 3 different sectors, so sorry, don't know what you looking at, but it was not our dar, because we never did produce, even under attack!
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