HT you are ranking this all WRONG!

[AKSeaWulfe]

 

Originally posted by Voss:
heh, you don't know me too good do you?  

I don't need to know ya. I just need to know one thing: You are hunting a squad mate of mine... best stock up on parachutes. You gonna need 'um.
-SW

[AKDejaVu]

Voss,

Why do you come into this forum and call the scoring system stupid!... tell HTC they are doing it all WRONG!... then pretend you were just trying to help?

You then make it sound as if you are upset that members in your squad do not want to fly the P-51 exclusively because of HTC's ranking system.  You make it sound as if that is bad.  You make it sound as if that is almost perverse.

Yet.. fighter, bomber, attack and ship statistics are tracked seperately.  The rankings occur inside of those individual categories already.  Why would someone need to do the others exclusively to get higher overall rank?  I know.. ITS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO!

HTC isn't making it tough to lead your squad.. you are.  Now, to fix things, you want to remove the current over-all system and install one that caters to your personal views of how your squad should behave. One that gives more consideration to the squad that flies the way you demand yours does.  That way it will make things easier on you.

I guess it is an orinal angle, and would shock most people had you not started refering to yourself in third person:

 

I think you go around trying to find fault in what people say (or at least Voss)

How can you argue with someone that refers to themselves in third person?  Hmmm.. let me try:

AKDejaVu goes around pointing out faults in faulty arguments.  Of course, these are purely AKDejaVu's opinions, but people (or at least Voss) seem to think he is insulting the very essence of their being by disagreeing.  That is what AKDejaVu does.

So.. please excuse me if the above looks clumsy.. its my first experience with refering to myself in the third person.  Someday, however, I hope to be as good as you Voss.

AKDejaVu has now left.


[This message has been edited by AKDejaVu (edited 03-07-2001).]

[fscott]

"fscott, you better get busy!"

Er..yeah, come to think of it, I may not be in that top ten if I don't.  I'm flying the La5n a LOT this tour, so we will see.

fscott has 47 kills and 8 deaths in the La5n.

fscott

[Voss]

Very weak Deja. I ain't pretending nothing.

I said what I said and you twisted it. Yeah, it's wrong cause I ain't having no fun with the scores. Now I have to ignore it.

Stop trying to piss me off, DV.  

This scoring system is porked. It isn't fun for everyone, and you don't get it!

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[Sandman_SBM]

 

Originally posted by funked:
Sorry, climbing for 20 minutes before fighting should not be rewarded.  That's not flying smart, that's flying BORING.

It may be boring but it's realistic. Real air combat is filled with hours upon hours of boredom punctuated by mere moments of exhilaration and terror.

We can't all be Hans-Joachim Marseille.

[AKDejaVu]

 

This scoring system is porked. It isn't fun for everyone, and you don't get it!

You think making it fun for you would make it fun for everyone.  You just don't get it.

AKDejaVu

[Hangtime]

"Diplomacy"  The art of saying "nice doggie" while ya hunt up a rock.

[Yeager]

It doesnt much matter to me.

Cheers,
Yeager

 

[streakeagle]

Last time I checked, the primary focus of any game is to have fun... though this type in particular, being a simulation, should lean heavily toward realism.

For those that argue points for climbing all day are wrong... historically, victory (or survival) tended to go to the highest and fastest flying. That is of course why high altitude bombing and escorts for those high altitude bombers were  so important. Cruising unassailed at high atltitude and striking with impunity may be boring... but it is exactly what is desired for mission accomplishment and survival. Those who achieve this should be rewarded as well as any other because they would win the war  

For those that don't believe time should be a factor, which would be more effective in war: shooting down all the enemy planes in one day (including strafing his fields as the planes try to take off) or picking one off for no losses slower than the enemy's rate of production? When your country has a high production rate, it is actually standard practice to sacrifice kill-to-death ratios to speed up victory. The US cranked out plenty of obsolete equipment in WWII, and look how the Russians used numbers to overcome the Germans. Winning war means securing every advantage possible: numbers, technology, training, physical location/position, mobility, firepower, etc. Those who practice proven real-world strategies and tactics should be rewarded.

Now if Aces High is more game than sim... reward only reflexes and stick, rudder, and button skills... but I think you would be happier playing Quake  

I personally could care less about the score as long as I get to fly with this great bunch of guys.

Stephen the Eagle

[This message has been edited by streakeagle (edited 03-07-2001).]

[Vruth]

I would of rather seen a commanders chair in AH than a score sheet.

What is more benificial?  The ability to rank yourself as a fighter jock on a decent connection?  What about team play? Ability to work together? Squadron rankings?

Being ex-military, acting as a loner got you either:
a) a bullet in the back of your head during combat/exercise
b) beind singled out as not-a-team-player and shunned to the point he leaves.

AH should be about team play, not game play. But, that's just my utopia, not reality here in our QUAKERS HIGH online arena.

Voss is right, the scoring system rewards the individual in a rather precarious manner.  How about a nice battle commanders position for each team - controls ships, plans missions, plans CAP, calls out intercepts, etc etc.  Nice gui would round it out too.

Vruth
403 Bomber Sqn.

[Beurling]

Dmf awhile back i thought i saw you were not flying in the ma. If this is still the case surely your flying h2h?

Next tour im going back to h2h for awhile. If your ever there and i am to we should fly a few. I would learn something im sure  

<S> Dead+ see ya

EYE

[pzvg]

Awright! I've been hearing about this "everyone" creep in a dozen threads.
Who is everyone? Does he fly under that name? or a shadow handle? And if AH pisses him off so much? why's he still here?
What? "everyone" includes me? Ah, nope haven't a opinion on that, havent given you one on that, couldn't give a sh@t actually.
Note; this is the part where folks who wish to speak for "everyone" usually tell everyone to STFU, because "no one" (is that his real handle?) wants to hear it.
Funny how that works.

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pzvg- "5 years and I still can't shoot"

[sling322]

Yeah right Vruth....I just spent 8 hrs at a job with somebody telling me what to do, I come home to kill some time and blow off steam and now you want to make me take orders from some pansie-ass wanna-be virtual general who is gonna tell me what and when and where to fly?

No thanks, bud.  Think it would be better to stay at work and get the OT.  

If you want that then you need to go somewhere else and get it.  Have you heard of the new one coming out... VWII Online?  Its the best thing to come along since sliced bread.  And you can be a general in there just like everybody else.
Maybe you should give them a try.

[Vulcan]

<quietly moves over to slings side of the room>

Ahh Vruth, u ever hear bout that boat called the Bounty?


 

Originally posted by sling322:
Yeah right Vruth....I just spent 8 hrs at a job with somebody telling me what to do, I come home to kill some time and blow off steam and now you want to make me take orders from some pansie-ass wanna-be virtual general who is gonna tell me what and when and where to fly?

No thanks, bud.  Think it would be better to stay at work and get the OT.  

If you want that then you need to go somewhere else and get it.  Have you heard of the new one coming out... VWII Online?  Its the best thing to come along since sliced bread.  And you can be a general in there just like everybody else.
Maybe you should give them a try.

[gatt]

nm

[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 03-08-2001).]