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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 10:32:58 AM »

Tried... Got 4 pilots for one sortie... not continued too much (also 2 of them were ex AH players)

Would it help if HTC offered a P51s desert camo skin?



Or modeled Mirage IIIs?



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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2013, 10:41:33 AM »
Would it help if HTC offered a P51s desert camo skin?


Cool.

Or modeled Mirage IIIs? :D


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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2013, 10:45:12 AM »
Tell ViFF I said hello!  We flew together in the 56th in the early 2000's.  Heck of a stick - the man knew his business.

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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2013, 10:49:05 AM »
Hissssssssssss.



Are you insane?  The Mirage III is one of the baddest looking planes EVER....and it looks really nice in desert tan.

Take THAT 262 jockeys!  :D
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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2013, 10:54:20 AM »
How do I convince them to come back to AH - they are about 12-16 players?


You don't.  :old:

it's just like trying to 'convince' someone that he should listen to your favourite singer (whom he disllikes) instead of his, or that he should prefer your favourite meal (which he already tasted) over his.
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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2013, 11:38:41 AM »
Artik,
If you get the gang in on a 2 week trial or something, let me know and I'll set up a small mini event in one of the special event arenas so they can get their feet wet without getting pounced on in the mains.
We can tour them around the various aspects of aces, the fleets, ground, base capture elements, the works.  That might show them more options than they currently have, albeit with a sacrifice of graphics.  What we can't tell them is how quickly they lose themselves in the game if there is much to do, we have to show them.

Let me know, I'd be happy to make it happen.
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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2013, 02:01:11 PM »
I remember a 101 squadron from Warbirds, is this the same squad ?
I had one of my trainers, =webs= flying there ...
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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2013, 03:45:24 PM »
To be fair if they cannot see what you have already said in your OP they never will, some people hang to a different type of realism, usually a visual perception that if it looks photo realistic the rest should be as well.

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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2013, 04:30:47 PM »
I thought Xcom already played AH a bit?  at least he had some excellent skills I was going to recruit him at one point! 
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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2013, 04:32:25 PM »
two weeks is not enuff time to learn the game let alone have time to enjoy it. I tried a 2 week trial years ago and was self relegated back to warbirds as 2 weeks was barely time to learn the UI let alone get any kills. This time around I just said hell with it and just signed up........ Ill never regret it :)
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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2013, 05:05:16 PM »
Can you expand on what they mean by "old generation"?
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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2013, 05:41:49 PM »
How do I convince them to come back to AH - they are about 12-16 players?

Have them try AH during a "This Day in WWII" event.  I would say during a scenario, but unfortunately they just missed one, and the next one won't be for a while.

In fact, if you'd like, go to the list of "This Day in WWII" events ( http://www.ahevents.org/events/this-day-in-wwii.html ), pick which one they think would be most fun (other than Pearl Harbor and Operation Torch, because I'm going to be running those soon anyway), and I'll work on running it on a night that suits you.

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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2013, 08:12:58 PM »
Artik,

You might get one or two if all else fails.

Selling a new ideology has always been tricky. Part of the problem is the group's identity and individual identity's created visa common experiences. You are asking your group in IL2 essentially to become something else with the same name in a new environment. While creating a new group and individual identity(s). They have invested time which will have to be invested again along with some who have a poor opinion of AH to cast into the voting pool. It's always easy to be here saying the transfer process was no sweat because you "wanted" to be here. Versus being dragged or influenced.

Every group at some point has members who will be open to other affiliations. For whatever reasons. Islam knows this and look what they do to curtail it. Identify them, and accomplish getting the easiest into AH for visits. Common fun experiences will carry more weight to sell AH. Which places a heavy burden on your shoulders at first, because you will be identified directly with the outcome of the experience. Then, if you get past that in one piece, get a second to visit AH with yourself and the first creating more shared fun experiences, with now half the burden. This has the potential of a domino effect when they talk about it to the others. Possibly a third wanting to join in the AH fun. We have AHers who play WoT and WarThunder. It's possible.

Or simply accept getting one or two over with you, then recruit.

I hope you have time and the patience to work this out on your potential converts time frame. New and novel experiences become their own reward as evidenced with yourself.
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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2013, 01:31:25 AM »
I remember a 101 squadron from Warbirds, is this the same squad ?
I had one of my trainers, =webs= flying there ...

Yes... This is the one...

Would it help if HTC offered a P51s desert camo skin?

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Ohhh. I once submitted a P-51D in bright IAF colors to HTC. It was politely rejected as it wasn't WW2  :cry



Artik,
If you get the gang in on a 2 week trial or something, let me know and I'll set up a small mini event in one of the special event arenas so they can get their feet wet without getting pounced on in the mains.
We can tour them around the various aspects of aces, the fleets, ground, base capture elements, the works.  That might show them more options than they currently have, albeit with a sacrifice of graphics.  What we can't tell them is how quickly they lose themselves in the game if there is much to do, we have to show them.

Let me know, I'd be happy to make it happen.

Have them try AH during a "This Day in WWII" event.  I would say during a scenario, but unfortunately they just missed one, and the next one won't be for a while.

In fact, if you'd like, go to the list of "This Day in WWII" events ( http://www.ahevents.org/events/this-day-in-wwii.html ), pick which one they think would be most fun (other than Pearl Harbor and Operation Torch, because I'm going to be running those soon anyway), and I'll work on running it on a night that suits you.


Wow... guys, ROC, Brooke... Thanks!!!

That's it...

The great community....

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Re: Bringing back my squadron to AH from IL-2 and DCS
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2013, 01:35:09 AM »
I thought Xcom already played AH a bit?  at least he had some excellent skills I was going to recruit him at one point! 

Yeah... I tried to recruit him for the 3rd BoB frame... He promised to come but... he didn't. And we lost BoB   :cry  ;)

(Actually having xcom in our team is like having 3-4 additional players... the only thing that stops him is the amount of ammo and fuel he as in his fighter)
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