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For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« on: October 29, 2013, 01:34:00 PM »
The Polish Operation of the NKVD in 1937–1938 was a Soviet Great Purge-era mass operation against purported Polish agents in the Soviet Union, explicitly ordered against Polish spies, but interpreted by the NKVD as relating to "absolutely all Poles". It resulted in the sentencing of 139,835 people and the execution of 111,091 Poles, and those accused of working for Poland. The operation was implemented according to NKVD Order № 00485 signed by Nikolai Yezhov. Not all, but the majority were ethnic Poles according to Timothy Snyder: 85,000 is given by him as a "conservative estimate" of the number of executed Poles. The remainder being 'suspected' to be Polish without further inquiry.

NKVD personnel gathered Polish-sounding names from local telephone books in order to speed up the process. In Leningrad alone, almost 7,000 citizens were rounded up. A vast majority of them were executed within 10 days of arrest. In the fourteen months after the adoption of Order № 00485, 143,810 people were captured, of whom 139,885 were sentenced by extrajudical organs, and 111,091 executed (nearly 80% of all victims).

It was the largest ethnic shooting and deportation action during the Great Terror.

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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 02:34:00 AM »
Everyone knows this :old:

The Germans were more efficient at doing it in later years :old:

Pilsudski?

Lets talk about him for a bit :old:

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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 08:59:14 AM »
Everyone knows this :old:

The Germans were more efficient at doing it in later years :old:

Pilsudski?

Lets talk about him for a bit :old:



Do you think this is about the Katyn Massacre? Katyn was in 1940. :old:
This was in 1937, two years before war.

What do you know about Pilsudski?
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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 09:55:36 AM »
having a difficult time figuring out what the point is...such events have occurred throughout human history, large and small scale.
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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 10:42:47 AM »
Stalin was Hitler with a bigger mustache.
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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 02:44:56 PM »
Stalin was Hitler with a bigger mustache.

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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2013, 02:50:52 AM »
nonsense :old:

All i read about Kazan's perspective is always one sided :old:

Yes the Germans and Russians were nationalistic :old:

Not once has he dicussed Polands territorial ambitions during the 1920's

In Britain we are quite aware what we got up to in history :)

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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2013, 03:25:23 AM »
Stalin was Hitler with a bigger mustache.

wrong there's a big difference.  hitler wanted some people he thought were inferior to the german race dead.  staling was so paranoid he wanted everybody dead.

see the thing about stalin killing the poles is that it was just in the middle of a massacre  that lasted for years.

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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2013, 07:12:16 AM »
Not once has he dicussed Polands territorial ambitions during the 1920's
it wasn't just in the 1920s either...
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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2013, 09:26:29 AM »
it wasn't just in the 1920s either...

Sure, in 1939 we invaded peaceful Germany and Soviet Union... :uhoh

1920 we had alliance with the Ukraine here   :old:
Attacker was Soviet Union  :old:
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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2013, 10:31:55 AM »
Sure, in 1939 we invaded peaceful Germany and Soviet Union... :uhoh

1920 we had alliance with the Ukraine here   :old:
Attacker was Soviet Union  :old:
what about 1018, 1605-1618?
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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2013, 11:49:09 AM »
wrong there's a big difference.  hitler wanted some people he thought were inferior to the german race dead.  staling was so paranoid he wanted everybody dead.
The difference is that Hitler was German so he was very methodical and organized about his killings. Stalin being Russian just improvised as he went along. That and the mustache.
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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2013, 12:10:16 PM »
Ah yes, evil Poland. http://youtu.be/eAVVWlUywO0 poor Stalin never had a chance, and please pass a tissue to blot away my tears for noble Hitler.
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Re: For the Poles in USSR. Genocide was started in 1937
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2013, 01:04:11 PM »
Kazan admit one thing that Poland has done that is questionable :)

The fact is you are unable to.

I have worked with 15 Polish workers in the UK and it was hilarious listening to their world views.

The fact of the matter is many eastern European countries have a lot to say when basically they shouldn't.

Why do you think Poland is in the EU because everyone wanted to be nice to Poland?

The reason is the same as Serbia being in the EU, when your linked to the financial and economic union you cannot go jumping about and start being Nationalists. :old:

And don't deny Poland is very nationalistic. :old:
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