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Offline Rob52240

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job offer rescinded!
« on: October 29, 2013, 10:48:27 PM »
Strange thing happened to me today.  I was offered a job and then asked if I used tobacco.  I said yes and assumed they were asking to determine my health insurance rate.
They told me that they didn't hire tobacco users and I need to reapply next week and either quit smoking or lie about quitting smoking.

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Offline Motherland

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Re: job offer rescinded!
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 11:29:50 PM »
The smokers at my part time job spend like half their shift on smoke breaks (obviously exaggerating, but less than I'd like)
Seems to be a common theme, I have a friend who picked up smoking just to get smoke breaks all the time
Honestly I don't think I'd hire smokers either
But I'm petty and not a manager

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 11:33:41 PM »
We have assumed control, we have assumed control.

Seriously though, many companies are going tobacco free for any number of reasons. Quitting is not only good for you, but will set you free in so many other ways. If you don't want to quit then flip them the bird and live your life how you want to while you still can. Being an ex smoker (seven years in February) I understand the enjoyment of tobacco use as well as the misery.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 11:48:22 PM »
Some hospitals are telling clinical nursing/med students to go elsewhere if they use nicotine. Med programs for clinicals are now including nicotine in the drug screen...

Legalized discrimination.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 12:17:52 AM »
I smoked for 20 years.  Admitting this avoids hiprcracy.

Having that said, it was becoming obvious to me that employers were being both covert and overt in discriminating against smokers.

Illegal?  Both yes and no.  You may not be told that is the reason but when I quit myself smoking--being in the company of smoker was obvious beyond belief.

Did I lose out on gigs?  Maybe.  In radio, ratings rule, and air talent's small sins were overlooked if they could generate big ratings.  For other kinds of business they look at smokers as being an anchor--sinking the company in costs by being a business loss by jacking up their insurance costs in Health and Life.

Don't get me wrong--I LIKED smoking.  It was a bad habit but I didn't mind.

After my grandchild was born it was a different story.

Bordering on COPD, I wanted my grandchild to have a fun grandaddy and not seeing him dead in a casket as a child.  I used the patch and quit.  Easy?  Not after the first week.  The patch was AWESOME. 

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 01:21:39 AM »
Yes smokers like complaining and taking more breaks than non smokers :rofl
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 03:00:03 AM »
I smoked for almost 20 years at least a pack a day.  a few years back i was given welbutrin for depression.  it didnt help with depression but I havent smoked since then.  when I told a couple of other guys at work they all went to their doctor got some of it and 2 or 3 weeks later they had all quit.  none of them are back smoking.  I"ll have an occasional cigarette but when i do I always wonder what the f was the attraction to it.

our company is now smoke free, guys who smoked at work never bothered me even after I had quit.  it's the damn chewing tobacco nasty mf that really gross me out.  specially when they leave their cups all over the office at the mill.  now that is disgusting.

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 04:44:23 AM »
Being a life-long non-smoker I've sometimes been in a situation where the person servicing me has just had a cig. "HHHHWhat cHHHHan HHHHI do HHHfor HHHHyou, HHHsir?" -Please, could you stop breathing and change your clothes after you've had a proper shower...

Don't get me wrong, though. There are smokers and there are smokers. Even at school I often spent the breaks with the smokers behind the corner and have been continuing the habit at parties where people go out for a smoke. No way for me going into a dedicated smoker's room, though.

But when dealing with customers or patients, you can never tell whether the next one is heavily asthmatic. No smoke, no perfume, no pet hair/dust in your working clothes may save your job from a million dollar sue.

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 07:21:34 AM »
Yes smokers like complaining and taking more breaks than non smokers :rofl

Somebody give that kid a promotion, he is obviously wise far beyond his years.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 07:25:50 AM »
Legalized discrimination.
it's proof that you can't fix stupid and it's going to get worse. the police state is slowly materializing.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 09:46:18 AM »
I smoked and dipped snuff for about 18yrs...I quit both this year...Do I want to smoke and dip?...Yes....That being said, I am a construction worker and an employer...Am I going to not hire a hand just because they smoke or dip?...Hell no....It's none of my business what an employee does, especially at home...of course I am probably in the minority of bosses when it comes to things like that...now if it effects their duties...you run them off...
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 01:00:22 PM »
Being a life-long non-smoker I've sometimes been in a situation where the person servicing me has just had a cig. "HHHHWhat cHHHHan HHHHI do HHHfor HHHHyou, HHHsir?" -Please, could you stop breathing and change your clothes after you've had a proper shower...




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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2013, 05:57:29 PM »
If i get angry at the person serving me because I feel they smell offensively (for any reason) am i allowed to demand they not serve me?  Not in most cases. Just because I don't like a particular scent doesn't mean i'm somehow entitled to impose my views on them... 

Give that server a cigarette and somehow I'm morally correct and superior in belittling that person. I don't get it. 

Also LOVE hearing, "smokers never work"...

RUBBISH! To me, that's akin to saying that Jerry is always going to the bathroom for insulin injections, how come I can't take time off like him!? Whaaa! Poor me!

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2013, 06:40:17 PM »
Smokers get the same breaks as non smokers. Fifteen in the morning half hour at lunch. Need more then get a different job. Abide by the same rules and it matters naught to me if you smoke or not.

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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2013, 06:41:41 PM »
Yeah, I quit smoking at work 4 years ago, not because I had too just that I was usually up against a deadline of some type and didn't want to break stride. Now I can go all day without but as soon as I get home I light up a smoke. If you see no smokers spots outside a company you know that smoking will be frowned upon. Sucks that you're being discriminated against but smoke free workplaces seem to be the way the world is heading.
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