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Offline Lone82

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17lb'er
« on: November 25, 2013, 12:49:18 PM »
PLEASE :pray PLEASE :pray PLEASE :pray unweld my head from the 17lber. It's ridiculous not being able to look around to see whats coming in the direction of the incoming sound of a GV.  Nothing worst than turning that slow thing all the way around just to find out it was a friendly.  :bhead
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Offline Dogma911

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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 01:24:04 PM »
Couldn't agree more!

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Offline kvuo75

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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2013, 05:24:28 PM »
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it was something that broke with the new gv system and was never fixed


all it needs is a commander position like a gv..
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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2013, 06:40:42 PM »
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it was something that broke with the new gv system and was never fixed


all it needs is a commander position like a gv..

I think the reason why it wasn't given the commander position was because of it's huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuge zoooooooooom in.  Like the 5in, where I am able to tell what skin you chose for your plane... from over 7k away.    I agree that we should be able to look around (like that of the 88), but I think a commander view would be too much.

If we have something to show we will & do post shots, if we have nothing new to show we don't.
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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2013, 11:14:35 PM »
I've wished for this in the past and agree 100%.  Also, it would be nice if you could see the arena map while you're in the 17 lber without having to move it to the middle of your screen.
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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 02:31:42 AM »
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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 10:39:19 AM »
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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 03:36:00 PM »
I think the reason why it wasn't given the commander position was because of it's huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuge zoooooooooom in.  Like the 5in, where I am able to tell what skin you chose for your plane... from over 7k away.    I agree that we should be able to look around (like that of the 88), but I think a commander view would be too much.



if the tanks have it, why not? 17 lber in an m4 gets commander view, but 17lber by itself doesn't?  :headscratch:

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Offline Tinkles

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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 03:51:57 PM »
if the tanks have it, why not? 17 lber in an m4 gets commander view, but 17lber by itself doesn't?  :headscratch:



Well, there were complaints last time this was asked for the 17lber, because you could hit a tank "at an absurdly long range". 

I'm iffy on it. 

Personally, I think we shouldn't be able to shoot while in commander view (for tanks).
If we have something to show we will & do post shots, if we have nothing new to show we don't.
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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 03:53:21 PM »
Well, there were complaints last time this was asked for the 17lber, because you could hit a tank "at an absurdly long range". 

I'm iffy on it. 

Personally, I think we shouldn't be able to shoot while in commander view (for tanks).

that works too.
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Offline bustr

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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2013, 05:43:17 PM »
You could always make a deal with him.

Accept the real telescope sight reticule for the QF 17-Pdr if he unlocks the views. Otherwise Hitech has been very kind to us with the current reticle.

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Offline Lone82

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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2013, 05:58:51 PM »
The 17pdr Anti-Tank Guns came with a No. 41 (early) or a No.51 (later) Sighting Telescope. The No.41 had a 1.9x Zoom w/ 21 degree FOV & the No. 51 had 3x Zoom w/ 13 degree FOV. I'm not sure how that compares to our current model
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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2013, 06:18:33 PM »
The 17pdr Anti-Tank Guns came with a No. 41 (early) or a No.51 (later) Sighting Telescope. The No.41 had a 1.9x Zoom w/ 21 degree FOV & the No. 51 had 3x Zoom w/ 13 degree FOV. I'm not sure how that compares to our current model

The 17 Pdr sight we have now sure seems a lot like the Firefly's sight (6X zoom). 
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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 07:02:26 PM »
The 17pdr Anti-Tank Guns came with a No. 41 (early) or a No.51 (later) Sighting Telescope. The No.41 had a 1.9x Zoom w/ 21 degree FOV & the No. 51 had 3x Zoom w/ 13 degree FOV. I'm not sure how that compares to our current model

The only thing that matters to us in the game is the numbers a thingies that make the job of estimating aim as close to an aimbot as possible like the current reticle in the 17pndr. The anti-tank telescope sight in both version had a simple cross hair as the picture shows because they expected ambushing tanks to be at max 1800yds or pretty much line of sight. The left and right hand tick marks were if a small bit of lead was needed.

Like I said, Hitech is being very kind to us so we can shoot out to 4000yds and estimate range like a semi-aimbot. Letting a tank in the game get inside of 2000yds of you in a 17pndr is very often a loosing proposition.

As for unlocking the views. The gun team did have a commander but, it was a different team member who aimed. So maybe a commander mode where the gun stays fixed while the commander twirles liked a dervish with his binoculars.
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Offline Tinkles

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Re: 17lb'er
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2013, 07:03:56 PM »
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As for unlocking the views. The gun team did have a commander but, it was a different team member who aimed. So maybe a commander mode where the gun stays fixed while the commander twirles liked a dervish with his binoculars.

This is what I was thinking of too. 
If we have something to show we will & do post shots, if we have nothing new to show we don't.
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