This kinda sucks

[Fulcrum]

 

Nah...I never lay into anyone too hard.  It's just a game....only person I ever get pissed at in this game is myself.   

Wine was good...a $9 dollar Pino Grigio which was surprisingly not half bad!   

 

[Vraciu]

Nah...I never lay into anyone too hard.  It's just a game....only person I ever get pissed at in this game is myself.   

Wine was good...a $9 dollar Pino Grigio which was surprisingly not half bad!   

 

Heheheh!   

[PFactorDave]

Wine was good...a $9 dollar Pino Grigio which was surprisingly not half bad!   

There are quite a few pretty good table wines out there.  Also a bunch of expensive wines that are total garbage.  Always nice to find a good one.

[ROC]

Vraciu, why are you here when there are so many more superior games out there?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking why you are here when all you are doing is complaining, I am asking a legitimate question.  What brings you to this game?  It's clearly not the graphics, yet something brings you here.  What it is? 
Most of us know there is a sacrifice that must be made between the playability of "our" favorite game and eye candy.  We are not ignorant, we are old hats at this.  We have the xboxs, the wii, the super computers and real jobs that allow us the ability to play what we want, when we want, yet we are here. 

Why are you?  Graphics has never entered the picture for me.  That might be due to age though.  I am not the younger generation that rushes out to buy the latest and greatest game, download the cheat codes, blow through the game in 10 days and goes out to buy the next new title.  I grew up on board games.  The graphics were as good as my imagination.  Then, started in video games when full color meant we got both black AND white.  Maybe growing up immersing ourselves in the game, getting so deep into a scenario that our walls were filled with maps, having a social experience talking to friends all over the world while tooling around in a "plane" meant that we considered the graphics nothing more than background noise. We experience the game, we don't just play it.  Maybe that's why, some of us don't care about the graphics, and are willing to sacrifice eye candy so that the game plays without lag, stutters, shut downs, servers failing and more garbage that comes from games produced for the mass market instead of a very finicky long term stable market.  There is no more precise and stable game out there, no matter who the developer is.  EA doesn't have a chance in hell making a quality product.  They do make pretty games though.  They also have an audience with far lower standards when it comes to acceptable game play.  Why does it matter if it lags a bit, sure is pretty.  Patch it?  Forget that, new version is out by Christmas, they'll fix the bugs in that one.
HTC knows what they are doing, and they know full well that if they shuffled off the quality of the game, they would lose their core in a heartbeat.
So again, I'll ask, you have so many other games that are so much prettier, why are you here?

[guncrasher]

Been here since 2008.  Try again lugnut.  

The game hasn't changed.  If you're not improving you're falling behind.

My computer plays many other games with far better graphics.  Hmmmmmm.....         Nice try.  As others have pointed out, even on high settings AH is still a 2D cartoon.  Not sustainable.  Good luck with that.

you are funny as hell dude.  first your post is about how the game looks crappy, then your post your system specs.

RADEON HD 6570 1 GB (Not as good as I thought it was.  Oops.)
1280 x 1024
Field of View : AUTO
Max Texture Size : 512
Anti-Aliasing : None

Is there more info I need to provide you to figure out what I am doing wrong?

when everybody points out to you that you have a crappy system playing on the lowest settings you readily acknowledge it and ask for ways to improve your system.  now you claim that you have been playing since 2008 and you just found out the reason why your game looks like crap?  seriously took you 5 years to figure that out?  

follow your own advice "If you're not improving you're falling behind"  upgrade your damn system.  btw you can claim you can play games with far better graphics all you want, but you still arent taking fulll advantage of the other games either.  I can play other games too with my 300 dollar laptop with far better graphics, but they still look like crap when comparing to my desktop system.



semp

[Vraciu]

you are funny as hell dude.  first your post is about how the game looks crappy, then your post your system specs.

when everybody points out to you that you have a crappy system playing on the lowest settings you readily acknowledge it and ask for ways to improve your system.  now you claim that you have been playing since 2008 and you just found out the reason why your game looks like crap?  seriously took you 5 years to figure that out?  

follow your own advice "If you're not improving you're falling behind"  upgrade your damn system.  btw you can claim you can play games with far better graphics all you want, but you still arent taking fulll advantage of the other games either.  I can play other games too with my 300 dollar laptop with far better graphics, but they still look like crap when comparing to my desktop system.



semp

And you're dumb as hell "dude".  I have multiple systems.  I got a barebones one for my son and stuck a vid card in it for him to play some of the games he likes.  They look amazing.  I figure, hey, kid might like AH.  Talk it up to him, install it.  Holyshiiiiiiiiite!  1991 and ACES OVER EUROPE.   Woo hoo!!!

Just as it was when I was here almost five years ago! Yay!

You may kindly go fork yourself, you delusional half wit.  

Getting attacked by nimrods for pointing out the obvious...  Way to be ambassadors for the game, clowns.  

(Not all in this thread are clowns.  Some have been kind and helpful.  I appreciate them.   )


We need to attract and maintain new players.  Minecraft has horrible graphics but the kids love it.  Black Ops has awesome graphics.  Kids love it.  So why aren't they here?   Just wondering....

[Vraciu]

Vraciu, why are you here when there are so many more superior games out there?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking why you are here when all you are doing is complaining, I am asking a legitimate question.  What brings you to this game?  It's clearly not the graphics, yet something brings you here.  What it is?  
Most of us know there is a sacrifice that must be made between the playability of "our" favorite game and eye candy.  We are not ignorant, we are old hats at this.  We have the xboxs, the wii, the super computers and real jobs that allow us the ability to play what we want, when we want, yet we are here.  

Why are you?  Graphics has never entered the picture for me.  That might be due to age though.  I am not the younger generation that rushes out to buy the latest and greatest game, download the cheat codes, blow through the game in 10 days and goes out to buy the next new title.  I grew up on board games.  The graphics were as good as my imagination.  Then, started in video games when full color meant we got both black AND white.  Maybe growing up immersing ourselves in the game, getting so deep into a scenario that our walls were filled with maps, having a social experience talking to friends all over the world while tooling around in a "plane" meant that we considered the graphics nothing more than background noise. We experience the game, we don't just play it.  Maybe that's why, some of us don't care about the graphics, and are willing to sacrifice eye candy so that the game plays without lag, stutters, shut downs, servers failing and more garbage that comes from games produced for the mass market instead of a very finicky long term stable market.  There is no more precise and stable game out there, no matter who the developer is.  EA doesn't have a chance in hell making a quality product.  They do make pretty games though.  They also have an audience with far lower standards when it comes to acceptable game play.  Why does it matter if it lags a bit, sure is pretty.  Patch it?  Forget that, new version is out by Christmas, they'll fix the bugs in that one.
HTC knows what they are doing, and they know full well that if they shuffled off the quality of the game, they would lose their core in a heartbeat.
So again, I'll ask, you have so many other games that are so much prettier, why are you here?

I will respectfully answer your question.  I couldn't read beyond the first two sentences.

I am here because I love the game. Or the idea of it.  Warbirds is dead.  This was the only option.

I don't want to see this game die like that one did.  You may keep some players to the end because they have no choice.  But that number is dwindling precipitously.  Five years from now AH will be WB.  19 players in six arenas.  Wake up and start getting ahead of it.  I may be here when the lights go out....maybe i will not......but unless we start grabbing new players we are extinct as a community.

Don't shoot the messenger.

[guncrasher]

And you're dumb as hell "dude".  I have multiple systems.  I got a barebones one for my son and stuck a vid card in it for him to play some of the games he likes.  They look amazing.  I figure, hey, kid might like AH.  Talk it up to him, install it.  Holyshiiiiiiiiite!  1991 and ACES OVER EUROPE.   Woo hoo!!!

Just as it was when I was here almost five years ago! Yay!

You may kindly go fork yourself, you delusional half wit.  

Getting attacked by nimrods for pointing out the obvious...  Way to be ambassadors for the game, clowns.  

(Not all in this thread are clowns.  Some have been kind and helpful.  I appreciate them.   )


We need to attract and maintain new players.  Minecraft has horrible graphics but the kids love it.  Black Ops has awesome graphics.  Kids love it.  So why aren't they here?   Just wondering....

in other words you are lying. 

-dude you already admitted that the computer you played with is not up to par with the game.
-you already admitted you didnt know about hires graphics.
-you already admitted you need to upgrade.
-you did not once mentioned that "your other computer" has better graphics.  if you had you would have known that the lower computer is not up to par.

did I mention you are lying about one of two things.  one you have more than one computer and you dont know that one is so low end that it cant play play aces high  ,  or the acknowledgment that you didnt know your computer cant plat at higher than 512 res.


semp

[Tinkles]

I will respectfully answer your question.  I couldn't read beyond the first two sentences.

I am here because I love the game. Or the idea of it.  Warbirds is dead.  This was the only option.

I don't want to see this game die like that one did.  You may keep some players to the end because they have no choice.  But that number is dwindling precipitously.  Five years from now AH will be WB.  19 players in six arenas.  Wake up and start getting ahead of it.  I may be here when the lights go out....maybe i will not......but unless we start grabbing new players we are extinct as a community.

Don't shoot the messenger.

To be fair. It is wise to walk like on ice when responding or making a wish.    

From the responses that you have been given across the board, I would say that many who responded took your message like the messenger in "300" delivered his.  Charging through with the threat of death, as though we can't see the storm looming over the horizon.

However, things are looking up for aces high.  Even though some might look (even at the new terrain) and say "that needs improved", us veteran players give a big   for improvement.  They are showing they are willing to put forth the effort to improve the game.  

HiTech did say some time ago that he wanted to keep the company small. He didn't want to be Ubisoft/Sony/Microsoft/Rockstar etc.  

Small is more manageable (obviously), but it makes it easier to interact with the community and see what they want as well.


I (as many others here) agree that we need to get the attention of new players who would subscribe and keep the game going.  

What exactly do you suggest we do to keep who we have here, and to attract new players?

[Tinkles]

in other words you are lying. 

-dude you already admitted that the computer you played with is not up to par with the game.
-you already admitted you didnt know about hires graphics.
-you already admitted you need to upgrade.
-you did not once mentioned that "your other computer" has better graphics.  if you had you would have known that the lower computer is not up to par.

did I mention you are lying about one of two things.  one you have more than one computer and you dont know that one is so low end that it cant play play aces high  ,  or the acknowledgment that you didnt know your computer cant plat at higher than 512 res.


semp

All games look like crap if you play them on low res.

But I'm not picky 

[Vraciu]

in other words you are lying. 

-dude you already admitted that the computer you played with is not up to par with the game.
-you already admitted you didnt know about hires graphics.
-you already admitted you need to upgrade.
-you did not once mentioned that "your other computer" has better graphics.  if you had you would have known that the lower computer is not up to par.

did I mention you are lying about one of two things.  one you have more than one computer and you dont know that one is so low end that it cant play play aces high  ,  or the acknowledgment that you didnt know your computer cant plat at higher than 512 res.


semp

I never lie.

That I don't go into every detail of my daily life with you isn't grounds for false charges.

The game looks the same on an essentially basic system as it did five years ago.   Perhaps the difference is that five years ago it cost a lot more to look like 1993....

[Tinkles]

"We need to attract and maintain new players.  Minecraft has horrible graphics but the kids love it.  Black Ops has awesome graphics.  Kids love it.  So why aren't they here?   Just wondering...."



Aces high, requires time investment to get good at it.  It's not something you can start up and have familiar controls.  (Shift to run, spacebar to jump WASD to move G to throw grenade, etc).  It requires work, and it is quite intimidating and challenging to play a game that is difficult, that doesn't escort you through your journey or gameplay. And is unforgiving if you fail.


I would say Difficulty of the game is #1 . (This goes for flight model, all the planes and GVs, terrain, ack, etc.  The overall difficulty of the game is calculated into this "#")

  (Graphics has been removed from my #1 since the better graphics are currently in development, so until they are released I will Hold on any comments relating on the graphics system and it's beauty or limitations).

#2 Hmm.  The community is about the same as any online game really. If you truly think about it.   Call of Duty had it's jerks and trolls, aces high does too.  Even Minecraft has it's jerks.. To sum this "#" up, any game that has multiplayer can have a community (and most likely some of that community) whom are jerks.  
But there are a fair number who are willing to help and assist the newbie.  SO you have to keep that into consideration.



Not really sure on what else there is really.

[Vraciu]

To be fair. It is wise to walk like on ice when responding or making a wish.    

From the responses that you have been given across the board, I would say that many who responded took your message like the messenger in "300" delivered his.  Charging through with the threat of death, as though we can't see the storm looming over the horizon.

However, things are looking up for aces high.  Even though some might look (even at the new terrain) and say "that needs improved", us veteran players give a big   for improvement.  They are showing they are willing to put forth the effort to improve the game.  

HiTech did say some time ago that he wanted to keep the company small. He didn't want to be Ubisoft/Sony/Microsoft/Rockstar etc.  

Small is more manageable (obviously), but it makes it easier to interact with the community and see what they want as well.


I (as many others here) agree that we need to get the attention of new players who would subscribe and keep the game going.  

What exactly do you suggest we do to keep who we have here, and to attract new players?

An excellent response, sir.  

I have no idea how to get more people.  I am in desperation mode here.  We need to brainstorm.  Nothing lasts forever, but I sure would like AH to be here if I ever get to retire!



We need to think hard and bring in outside advice from people with no connection to the game for a fresh eye perspective.

Maybe I should be calm until the graphics engine in development comes out............

This is such a great game.  I hate seeing it die.....      

[Tinkles]

The game looks the same on an essentially basic system as it did five years ago.   Perhaps the difference is that five years ago it cost a lot more to look like 1993....

The terrain/graphics are being improved, but we probably won't see them in-game for a few more months.    It isn't quite fair to comment on the terrain/graphics system when HTC are working hard to make a new one.  

[Vraciu]

"We need to attract and maintain new players.  Minecraft has horrible graphics but the kids love it.  Black Ops has awesome graphics.  Kids love it.  So why aren't they here?   Just wondering...."



Aces high, requires time investment to get good at it.  It's not something you can start up and have familiar controls.  (Shift to run, spacebar to jump WASD to move G to throw grenade, etc).  It requires work, and it is quite intimidating and challenging to play a game that is difficult, that doesn't escort you through your journey or gameplay. And is unforgiving if you fail.


I would say Difficulty of the game is #1 . (This goes for flight model, all the planes and GVs, terrain, ack, etc.  The overall difficulty of the game is calculated into this "#")

  (Graphics has been removed from my #1 since the better graphics are currently in development, so until they are released I will Hold on any comments relating on the graphics system and it's beauty or limitations).

#2 Hmm.  The community is about the same as any online game really. If you truly think about it.   Call of Duty had it's jerks and trolls, aces high does too.  Even Minecraft has it's jerks.. To sum this "#" up, any game that has multiplayer can have a community (and most likely some of that community) whom are jerks.  
But there are a fair number who are willing to help and assist the newbie.  SO you have to keep that into consideration.



Not really sure on what else there is really.

Well, how to bait the hook for noobs then?

Lead computing gunsight for the first ten kills?

Longer free trial period?

??????