This kinda sucks

[Vraciu]

The terrain/graphics are being improved, but we probably won't see them in-game for a few more months.    It isn't quite fair to comment on the terrain/graphics system when HTC are working hard to make a new one.  

I conceded that point but am still being attacked.....

[Tinkles]

An excellent response, sir.  

I have no idea how to get more people.  I am in desperation mode here.  We need to brainstorm.  Nothing lasts forever, but I sure would like AH to be here if I ever get to retire!



We need to think hard and bring in outside advice from people with no connection to the game for a fresh eye perspective.

Maybe I should be calm until the graphics engine in development comes out............

This is such a great game.  I hate seeing it die.....      

We all want the game to stay here for a long time to come.

I can guess what would be said from the 'fresh eye perspective'.

Graphics
Making it easier to play


Even with the more modern games of today, like Battlefield 4 or Call of Duty Ghosts, players are criticizing the graphics when they already look nice.    The problem is, is that gamers today (this generation, mind you) are used to having eye-candy over quality.  Sure, it might be pretty, but is the storyline better than the last 5?  Are the weapons balanced?  Etc etc.

As long as it looks good it has to be good! If it doesn't look good, then it isn't worth my time.   << is the mentality of many gamers.

Many who I have shown Aces High II to have judged it based on it's graphics. And if I got them to play, by it's difficulty.        

The game is hard, by today's standards. It really is, but it is rewarding when you accomplish something.

If you know what you are doing, everything is easy.  I think we as a community need to take a good look at what we can do to make it easier for new guys to come in and learn the game. To see what HTC can add to make it easier to understand and then use that information.



It's a delicate balance and an icy road. I think it is doable though, it will just require patience, understanding, and constructive criticism, instead of insults and tearing others down.

 

[Zodiac]

I conceded that point but am still being attacked.....

Probably has a lot to with with your responses similar to the one below.

I will respectfully answer your question.  I couldn't read beyond the first two sentences.

If you want to have reasonable discussion online or in person then common courtesy is a good starting point, too many seem to forget that these days.

[Tinkles]

I conceded that point but am still being attacked.....

Not attacking or insulting.   Was just saying to leave it out of the equation until it's finished or released.

I didn't see your response "Maybe I should be calm until the graphics engine in development comes out............" until after I posted.

 





In response to

Well, how to bait the hook for noobs then?

Lead computing gunsight for the first ten kills?

Longer free trial period?

??????

I ask that you check out

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,356382.0.html

 

[Vraciu]

Probably has a lot to with with your responses similar to the one below.

If you want to have reasonable discussion online or in person then common courtesy is a good starting point, too many seem to forget that these days.

Tell that to all the guys flaming me from the jump.

[Vraciu]

Not attacking or insulting.   Was just saying to leave it out of the equation until it's finished or released.

I didn't see your response "Maybe I should be calm until the graphics engine in development comes out............" until after I posted.

 





In response to

I ask that you check out

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,356382.0.html

 

To be fair I  don't think I was referring to you as someone attacking me.   I can take a healthy give and take discussion.  You have been reasonable, best I can tell. 

[Zodiac]

I can't answer that with certainty.  Let me check and get back to you.

if you can't answer that you have your graphics maxed out then it is not right for you to say the planes need tweaking. The planes that have been recently remodeled in the last yea and 1/2 have been incredible looking with graphics cranked up.

Wow, be a jerk about it.  

This just points back to what others have said.  If my graphics are porked I sure had no idea until now.   Lack of help for new players abides.

And attitude problems from d-cks like you won't keep people around long.    

I have every right to comment regardless.  My experience is a parallel to the larger base who install and fly without tweaking graphics, and it looks like a damned cartoon compared to other turnkey sims.

 

Not sure I see where Joach1m flamed you, I do see where he pointed out that you saying the graphics were dated without knowing your settings was flawed (His response highlighted in Blue).
I of course also see your response to his presumed "flaming", which I'm pretty sure meets the requirements to be "flaming" in it's own right. So no I don't think people piled on as soon as you posted, I think you assumed JO's response was derogatory and started the purse fight all on your own.

[Vraciu]

if you can't answer that you have your graphics maxed out then it is not right for you to say the planes need tweaking. The planes that have been recently remodeled in the last yea and 1/2 have been incredible looking with graphics cranked up.

Wow, be a jerk about it.  

This just points back to what others have said.  If my graphics are porked I sure had no idea until now.   Lack of help for new players abides.

And attitude problems from d-cks like you won't keep people around long.    

I have every right to comment regardless.  My experience is a parallel to the larger base who install and fly without tweaking graphics, and it looks like a damned cartoon compared to other turnkey sims.

 


Not sure I see where Joach1m flamed you, I do see where he pointed out that you saying the graphics were dated without knowing your settings was flawed (His response highlighted in Blue).
I of course also see your response to his presumed "flaming", which I'm pretty sure meets the requirements to be "flaming" in it's own right. So no I don't think people piled on as soon as you posted, I think you assumed JO's response was derogatory and started the purse fight all on your own.

Perhaps I did.  Something I also conceded.  More than once.


Flame away.

[Zodiac]

Have no interest in flaming you or anyone else for that matter, I just can't stand when people play the victim angle. That said I am all for a graphics overhaul however I don't see it in the near future, we are talking about a complete overhaul of the game while keeping it up and running in it's current form. Lot of work for such a small company of individuals, but I have no doubt that HiTech has at least a couple of balls in the air on this very subject.

[Vraciu]

Have no interest in flaming you or anyone else for that matter, I just can't stand when people play the victim angle. That said I am all for a graphics overhaul however I don't see it in the near future, we are talking about a complete overhaul of the game while keeping it up and running in it's current form. Lot of work for such a small company of individuals, but I have no doubt that HiTech has at least a couple of balls in the air on this very subject.

I never play the victim.  Trust me. My shoulders are quite broad and I can sustain a flame war until the cows come home.   That doesn't advance our common cause, however...    Yes, I can get p r i c k l y, perhaps prematurely.  For that I apologize.

The balance of your post is certainly worthy.  I fear this business model is unsustainable.......  I hope I am wrong.

HTC has a tough road to navigate....  I wish them luck.  

[Arlo]

Sorry.  Your retardation was way too much to plow through.  I gave up about twenty percent in.  Your effort to help: FAIL.  

You've reached bottom, enjoy posting and playing to the best of your ability. 

[Arlo]

Vraciu, why are you here when there are so many more superior games out there?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking why you are here when all you are doing is complaining, I am asking a legitimate question.  What brings you to this game?  It's clearly not the graphics, yet something brings you here.  What it is? 
Most of us know there is a sacrifice that must be made between the playability of "our" favorite game and eye candy.  We are not ignorant, we are old hats at this.  We have the xboxs, the wii, the super computers and real jobs that allow us the ability to play what we want, when we want, yet we are here. 

Why are you?  Graphics has never entered the picture for me.  That might be due to age though.  I am not the younger generation that rushes out to buy the latest and greatest game, download the cheat codes, blow through the game in 10 days and goes out to buy the next new title.  I grew up on board games.  The graphics were as good as my imagination.  Then, started in video games when full color meant we got both black AND white.  Maybe growing up immersing ourselves in the game, getting so deep into a scenario that our walls were filled with maps, having a social experience talking to friends all over the world while tooling around in a "plane" meant that we considered the graphics nothing more than background noise. We experience the game, we don't just play it.  Maybe that's why, some of us don't care about the graphics, and are willing to sacrifice eye candy so that the game plays without lag, stutters, shut downs, servers failing and more garbage that comes from games produced for the mass market instead of a very finicky long term stable market.  There is no more precise and stable game out there, no matter who the developer is.  EA doesn't have a chance in hell making a quality product.  They do make pretty games though.  They also have an audience with far lower standards when it comes to acceptable game play.  Why does it matter if it lags a bit, sure is pretty.  Patch it?  Forget that, new version is out by Christmas, they'll fix the bugs in that one.
HTC knows what they are doing, and they know full well that if they shuffled off the quality of the game, they would lose their core in a heartbeat.
So again, I'll ask, you have so many other games that are so much prettier, why are you here?

Well done, my friend. 

[SilverZ06]

EVGA gtx 660ti 3g model. about 280$ new and maybe 240$ now.
CPU is just a simple ole i5 2500k
8gb RAM.
Nothing fancy at all in that setup and runs the game fine. Ill try to find you old pictures and stuff from when im in fights.

Your setup is similar to mine except for the card. I'm running an i5 2500k @ 4.6Ghz 16gb ram and a HD6950 2gb card. In offline mode with the same settings I get 30fps just sitting on the runway. I am running 3 monitors though so I am probably taking a hit on that as well. 

[Arlo]

I never play the victim.  Trust me. My shoulders are quite broad ...

Ah, the old 'I'm tough as nails in the midst of complaining that I'm being persecuted unfairly by the masses' ploy.



'Alright, the rest of you! I'm Vraciu and I'm going to give you a fresh perspective
about this game. You see, the default graphics setting is horribly outdated, the
business model is woefully inadequate and though the game has outlasted most
it is certainly on its last gasping breath. Hear me! Something must change!
I'm not entirely sure what.

And, by the way, you are all stinky retarded poopy-heads that pick on me way too
much while I'm doing my best to win friends and influence the community.

Nooooo! Ahhhhhh! Stop! You're crushing my broad shoulders! I'm not complaining, mind you.'

[Vraciu]

^^^^^