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Offline bustr

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A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« on: November 28, 2013, 04:52:28 PM »
A pop out listing of keyboard commands from the front page menu of the clipboard with a big sign showing click on me for key commands when you first pop up the clipboard.

Even for vets who have long ago mapped those keys to buttons and suddenly need to use the keystrokes and can't remember them to save their virtual lives.

It is illogical not to have that available prominently inside of the game for new players up front. Instead of having to drill down to the key mapping utility, if you want to make this game friendly towards keeping new players around paying a subscription.

Because this would probably leverage the key map files (.kmp) from the settings directory. It would reflect any changes made by each player to their personal key mappings in the key map utility. Say like my squad used Ctrl_w for the auto wingman flight button.
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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2013, 05:40:13 PM »
That's a good one...  Heck, I would probably use it some myself for commands that I don't often use.

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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 06:05:05 PM »
+1 good suggestion.

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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2013, 07:14:48 PM »
 I like the idea myself! :aok

  Maybe instead of options to get to the controls section have a section that says something like :control inputs: then use a subsection for setup and key mapping.

  A link to a "how to" would be nice as well.




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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2013, 09:30:55 PM »
+1
I edit a lot of my posts.  Get used to it.

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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2013, 09:37:48 PM »
+1...I'd likely use it as well for commands I dont use all that often as well.
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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 10:20:15 PM »
+1

You map it to your joystick, forget about it.  Then someone asks you "what is this command" or you suddenly need it and done forgot about it  :rofl
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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 10:21:59 PM »
+1

You map it to your joystick, forget about it.  Then someone asks you "what is this command" or you suddenly need it and done forgot about it  :rofl

I had to ask on Range, the other day, what the key stroke was to drop a tail hook.  I didn't have it mapped to my stick and couldn't remember.  Plus, I was Pilot Wounded and had taken an oil hit...  I wanted to get her on the ship asap!

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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2013, 09:16:24 AM »
I have this page

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/quickref/quickref.pdf

printed out and on a clipboard with a few other things that come in handy like the layout I use for my stick and throttle, field maps and such.

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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2013, 02:12:40 PM »
Fugi,

This is absolutely not for you and me. I bet you even have your socks folded and in order by color. And all of your media files logically stored away on external gazillion terabyte storage systems against the coming darkness of the xBox generation.

This is for the never ending newbie on range who asks how to raise his landing gear or drop flaps or cycle fuel or ords or jump from bomber to bomber ad naseum. The 20% never thinks the needs of the 80% matter because the 20% is so much more whatever between the ears. And yes I have a clipboard filled with print outs. I know all of the files to edit and print out, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Newbies will not print out chit. They will not dig for chit. But, if it is on page one of the clipboard with big letters:

Click on me for keyboard commands.

They will do it and have a happier experience. And they may just stay that much longer and want to get a paying account. Our ancient elitist snobbery is going to be the death of this game.

Hey Hitech for Christmas, introduce an alternative front end that is all command line for the ancient elitist game gurus. None of this sissified GUI watermelon for the mindless xBox generation gerbils. Real Men GREP the universe.
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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 09:10:56 AM »
perhaps it should be available in game too, but the quickref sheet that fugitive mentioned should be easier to find, and probably on HTC's actual site, instead of the trainers site.


(I saw this thread and thought, lemme go see if they still have that blue sheet.. yeah.. they do, it took me entirely too long to find it and I knew exactly what I was looking for.)



edit: yes. definitely. it should probably be under help, and not community/useful links/aces high trainers/at the bottom of the page
« Last Edit: November 30, 2013, 09:16:18 AM by kvuo75 »
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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2013, 03:55:19 AM »
Or a simulated "pilot school" if you will when the new user attempts to enter a arena where a quick narrated tutorial "maybe done by Dale himself" just to give a introduction... A option to skip or re-watch the tutorial at any time can be available.

Meh?
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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2013, 04:39:28 PM »
perhaps it should be available in game too, but the quickref sheet that fugitive mentioned should be easier to find, and probably on HTC's actual site, instead of the trainers site.


(I saw this thread and thought, lemme go see if they still have that blue sheet.. yeah.. they do, it took me entirely too long to find it and I knew exactly what I was looking for.)



edit: yes. definitely. it should probably be under help, and not community/useful links/aces high trainers/at the bottom of the page


Doesn't fit your personal narrative to what Aces High should be as a game for real men does it?

I think it's sadder though that a pop out menu of your keyboard commands is not prominently available in the game at the top level of the clipboard menu. Or if it's offensive to the likes of our resident Fugi's and Kuvo's, from a right click drop down like all of the map, war, country status, and network options. Unless this is Hitech being sneaky and forcing Vets to have to communicate with newbies by telling them how to select their fuel tanks for the umpteenth time in an evening.
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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2013, 06:47:17 PM »
Doesn't fit your personal narrative to what Aces High should be as a game for real men does it?

I think it's sadder though that a pop out menu of your keyboard commands is not prominently available in the game at the top level of the clipboard menu. Or if it's offensive to the likes of our resident Fugi's and Kuvo's, from a right click drop down like all of the map, war, country status, and network options. Unless this is Hitech being sneaky and forcing Vets to have to communicate with newbies by telling them how to select their fuel tanks for the umpteenth time in an evening.

hey i'm agreeing with you..

perhaps I wasn't clear.. if it isn't gonna be just built into the game they could at least make it easier to find on the website..
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Re: A Wish for all Newbies and 2 Weekers
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2013, 07:41:06 PM »
hey i'm agreeing with you..

perhaps I wasn't clear.. if it isn't gonna be just built into the game they could at least make it easier to find on the website..


If you don't type in circles like he does he doesn't understand what your typing and just goes with your against his idea like so many others.  :devil

I never said I was against his idea either, and pointed out what I do. What works for me doesn't always work for others, but I don't see that as a problem. I make a suggestions and people can go with it or not, totally up to them.

The reason I post my solution is because a lot of people have trouble finding, or they just aren't aware of whats available.