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109-g6/u4 N
« on: December 05, 2013, 01:48:00 PM »
Was the same as the g6 in all aspects except for the gun package.  They swapted out the 20mm for a 30 mm/1.18 in MK 108 Motorkanone engine cannon. Extremely easy to do in the game.  I love the tater. Would love to fly the g6 30mm :banana: :banana:
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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2013, 02:42:25 PM »
I would like to add that I think the high altitude G-6/AS would be a nice addition as well, especially for scenario usage.
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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2013, 03:02:09 PM »
While we're on the topic on 109's I'd like to throw the 109T out there.  :)

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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2013, 04:22:31 PM »
While we're on the topic on 109's I'd like to throw the 109T out there.  :)

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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2013, 05:37:25 PM »
While we're on the topic on 109's I'd like to throw the 109T out there.  :)

Why don't you simply ask for the Bf 109 E4N with the DB601N in it bathrobe?
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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2013, 06:29:48 PM »
Why don't you simply ask for the Bf 109 E4N with the DB601N in it bathrobe?

Can we take those off from carriers?

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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 06:59:00 PM »
Did a german carrier ever get to sea and launch sorties at the allies? Or did it sit in harbor for it's life span as a political tool?
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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 07:05:07 PM »
Just because the Germans never finished their carrier doesn't mean 109T's weren't used in combat.  ;)

I bet the Amercians used their Carrier planes from land bases in the Pacific. Planes like the F4F and SBD which are both in the game.

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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 07:08:29 PM »
Unlike those planes the 109T never operated from a CV, but from land bases without any CV specific equipment. So IF we ever would see a 109T (much I doubt very much), it would still not available from carriers in the game. :)
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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2013, 07:25:31 PM »
Unlike those planes the 109T never operated from a CV, but from land bases without any CV specific equipment. So IF we ever would see a 109T (much I doubt very much), it would still not available from carriers in the game. :)

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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2013, 05:58:18 AM »
Just for the record - the 3cm gun option was just the /U4 without additional N, the latter was equipped for night fighting (Wilde Sau).

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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2013, 07:39:08 AM »
I'm curious how the requested aircraft differs from the 109G-14?
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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2013, 09:00:21 AM »
I'm curious how the requested aircraft differs from the 109G-14?

It had a slightly different version of the DB605, without MW50 and tuned for a different altitude band.

The biggest boon to the 109G series that Hitech could implement in this game would be giving us the 109G6 and 109G14 with the DB605AS engine. The high-altitude performance in our non-AS versions is pretty dismal. Just for a comparison:

G14: 568 km/h (353 mph) at sea level, 665 km/h (413 mph) at 5 km (16,400 ft) altitude
G14/AS: 560 km/h (348 mph) at sea level, 680 km/h (422 mph) at 7.5 km (24,600 ft) altitude

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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2013, 10:10:01 AM »
Please let me dream just a little more.  :)

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Re: 109-g6/u4 N
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2013, 11:52:42 AM »
While we're on the topic on 109's I'd like to throw the 109T out there.  :)


Sorry Latrobe.  NO carrier combat service so it would not be able to take off the carrier as much as I wish it could.

Prior to the war the Kriegsmarine had become fascinated with the idea of the aircraft carrier. Borrowing ideas from the British and Japanese (mainly Akagi), they started the construction of Graf Zeppelin as part of the rebuilding of the navy. The air group for the carrier was settled on Messerschmitt Bf 109T fighters and Ju 87C dive bombers. The suffix 'T' denotes Träger (carrier) in German use.[25]
Despite references to a Bf 109 T-0 version.[25] this version never existed. Seven earlier versions (Bf 109 B, Bf 109 C, Bf 109 E) were converted to test carrier equipment. This included, adding a tail-hook, catapult fittings and increasing the wingspan to 11.08 m (36.35 ft). The ailerons were increased in span, as were the slats, and flap travel was increased. The wings were not modified to be folding since the ship Graf Zeppelin was designed around the intended aircraft, so the lifts could accommodate the Bf 109T with its 11 m (36 ft) wingspan. The wings could, however, be detached from the fuselage for transport purposes, as in every version of the Bf 109.[26][27][28]
Following flight tests, especially the catapult tests, 70 T-1 with DB601Ns were to be produced at Fieseler in Kassel, but after seven T-1s were built, the carrier project was cancelled. The remaining 63 of 70 T-1s were built as T-2s without carrier equipment and some of the T-1s may have been "upgraded" to T-2 standard. It was found that the performance of the T-2 was closely comparable to the E-4/N and, because of its ability to take off and land in shorter distances, these fighters were assigned to I/JG.77, deployed in Norway on landing strips which were both short and subject to frequent, powerful cross-winds.[29] At the end of 1941 the unit was ordered to return their aircraft to Germany and received E-3s as replacements.[30] The armament of the Bf 109T consisted of two 7.92 mm (.312 in) MG 17s above the engine and one 20 mm MG FF/M cannon in each wing.[25]
Interest in Graf Zeppelin revived when the value of aircraft carriers became obvious, and in 1942 the ship was back in the yards for completion. By this time the Bf 109T was hopelessly outdated and a new fighter would be needed. Messerschmitt responded with the updated Me 155A series, but work on the ship was again canceled and the Me 155 was later re-purposed as a high-altitude interceptor. Design work was transferred to Blohm & Voss and the aircraft was then known as the BV 155. The Bf 109Ts were issued to several training units in 1943. Then, in April 1943 the Jagdstaffel Helgoland was formed[31] and operated from Düne until late 1943 when the unit transferred to Lister in south Norway. The unit was renamed as 11./JG 11 as of 30 November 1943[32] and the Bf 109Ts remained in operations until the summer of 1944, after which some were used in training units in Germany.
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