Would this be a Ho?

[JunkyII]

If you want the RAW video i still have it...no way was he after the merge turn (to late) was he going to get his guns on me.  
Just had to say .  

I said it wasn't.... don't need the raw footage to tell that.

[Sunka]

I said it wasn't.... don't need the raw footage to tell that.

Did i sound a bit defensive.

[Mongoose]

  A Head On, or HO, shot is frowned upon because it is the airplane equivalent of playing "chicken" with cars.  Generally a bad move, and a high percentage of both planes going down.  So, while a HO should be avoided, if it is the only shot you have, take it.

  I most often get in a HO shot when I misjudge my opponent's turn, especially when I have a good case of tunnel vision going.

[JunkyII]

Did i sound a bit defensive.

A little....I'm sorry misunderstood

[Latrobe]

HO shots require both planes having guns on each others. If one plane has guns on and the other doesn't then it is not a HO shot. The words "Head On" pretty much sums up what a HO shot is, but there's a lot of people who think anything in front of the 3-9 line is considered a HO shot. They're wrong.

I say take any shot you think you can win, including HO shots. They can complain all they want when they die but there is one blindingly simple fact that they simply choose to ignore: You died because you flew into their guns, don't do that next time! If your opponent is going to purposely fly into your gunsight then it'd be a crime NOT to shoot him.

 



All the complaining on 200 and range about "What a dweeb Hoing me like that!" is just really annoying. Do these people realize their plane has things called elevators, and ailerons, and a rudder? You can use these magical things to move your aircraft and not get shot! Amazing I know, right!?? 

[pembquist]

Has anybody made a video from two plane's point of view with screen capture not the ah recorder to compare the difference in what it looks like? I've always been curious how that would look.

[waystin2]

HO shots require both planes having guns on each others. If one plane has guns on and the other doesn't then it is not a HO shot. The words "Head On" pretty much sums up what a HO shot is, but there's a lot of people who think anything in front of the 3-9 line is considered a HO shot. They're wrong.

I say take any shot you think you can win, including HO shots. They can complain all they want when they die but there is one blindingly simple fact that they simply choose to ignore: You died because you flew into their guns, don't do that next time! If your opponent is going to purposely fly into your gunsight then it'd be a crime NOT to shoot him.

Well said Trobe.

[BaldEagl]

HO shots require both planes having guns on each others. If one plane has guns on and the other doesn't then it is not a HO shot. The words "Head On" pretty much sums up what a HO shot is, but there's a lot of people who think anything in front of the 3-9 line is considered a HO shot. They're wrong.

I say take any shot you think you can win, including HO shots. They can complain all they want when they die but there is one blindingly simple fact that they simply choose to ignore: You died because you flew into their guns, don't do that next time! If your opponent is going to purposely fly into your gunsight then it'd be a crime NOT to shoot him.

 



All the complaining on 200 and range about "What a dweeb Hoing me like that!" is just really annoying. Do these people realize their plane has things called elevators, and ailerons, and a rudder? You can use these magical things to move your aircraft and not get shot! Amazing I know, right!?? 

When you're outnumbered 5-10 on one and get HO'd it's totally unnessesary regardless of having control surfaces or not.

[Moordeeb]

When you're outnumbered 5-10 on one and get HO'd it's totally unnessesary regardless of having control surfaces or not.

In order to determine the best course of action in a shoot/don't shoot situation, one would simple need to ask the question "what would Pappy Boyington do?".   

[Scca]

A HO is any shot taken on you due to a failure of your ACM or SA   

[RotBaron]

Many times, too many, I've found that I knew I could pull hard enough (burning considerable kinetic btw) to get around and HO if I had to, often though I relax the stick to try and better reposition. This is almost always the end of that sortie for me  

I could pull it around, but it would be a HO (to me,) the other guy usually however does not consider it a HO because I did not pull. So thus, after a year and half I may now know what Redbul meant:


http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,343064.0.html

see REdbul's comments, he later said he started off never ho'ing, but learned after a long time, there is a time and place, just no often...


I suppose it's only a HO if it is a HO in your mind, like Semp said forget the other guy...maybe?

[Muzzy]

Here's the problem I have with Ho's: too many other blokes will take the shot while you're trying to play "nice".  I've tried to avoid using it as much as possible, but more often than not, the other guy will take the shot first. This is especially true of BnZ'ers that I turn into. Most will shoot at you any way you can. Granted, most times it's easy to avoid them, but every now and then I will get clobbered. I don't often do it, but I will if I think it's the best shot at the time.

[PFactorDave]

HO shots require both planes having guns on each others. If one plane has guns on and the other doesn't then it is not a HO shot. The words "Head On" pretty much sums up what a HO shot is, but there's a lot of people who think anything in front of the 3-9 line is considered a HO shot. They're wrong.

I say take any shot you think you can win, including HO shots. They can complain all they want when they die but there is one blindingly simple fact that they simply choose to ignore: You died because you flew into their guns, don't do that next time! If your opponent is going to purposely fly into your gunsight then it'd be a crime NOT to shoot him.

To expand on this...  I see it in the DA all the time.  Two good pilots agree not to HO during a duel.  Guess what happens...

It changes the way they fly.  They don't necessarily have to work to stay out of each others guns during merges.  They just have to bring their nose around enough to present a HO aspect. 

In a duel, I agree with guns cold on the first merge, but after that crossing through your opponents gun site should be a very dangerous thing.

In the MA, you never want to allow an opponent a shot from any aspect.  You should learn to use their attempt to HO you as an opportunity to gain an advantage on that first merge.

[Muzzy]

  :aokThis ^^ now where's that thread on avoid the ho again?