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Offline DmonSlyr

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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2013, 10:17:15 AM »
Some people fly to furball, some people fly to attack and bomb bases, some people get tanks for destruction and battles, some just want to deplete furballs by killing the FHs so the other team will get pisses. My job and goal is to shoot all of them down.
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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2013, 10:24:15 AM »
Gee, I was just trying to help you out. You can't expect the website to delineate every idea or purpose of the designer. That's why we have the BBS…to flesh out the barebones outlines.

Here is where I think you have your blinders on:

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I agree that attempting to capture a bases is a means to promote combat, but only capturing a field helps a side win the war and that purpose as stated  in the getting started pages  by hitech creations is to win the war.

HT has CLEARLY stated that capturing fields is just a means to promote combat.

He has also stated that war winning is by no means any more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.

So again: HT build a big old sandbox for us to play in.

YOU (and others) may choose to prosecute the war vigorously, capturing bases and winning the glorious war. Have fun; enjoy.

Just recall that YOUR purpose for playing is not any more or less justified than the purpose of the folks that come here just for air combat, just for the furball.

Both purposes are equal in the eyes of the designer/owner of the game. The true goal being just for folks to have fun here.
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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2013, 10:27:33 AM »
Gee, I was just trying to help you out. You can't expect the website to delineate every idea or purpose of the designer. That's why we have the BBS…to flesh out the barebones outlines.

Here is where I think you have your blinders on:

HT has CLEARLY stated that capturing fields is just a means to promote combat.

He has also stated that war winning is by no means any more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.

So again: HT build a big old sandbox for us to play in.

YOU (and others) may choose to prosecute the war vigorously, capturing bases and winning the glorious war. Have fun; enjoy.

Just recall that YOUR purpose for playing is not any more or less justified than the purpose of the folks that come here just for air combat, just for the furball.

Both purposes are equal in the eyes of the designer/owner of the game. The true goal being just for folks to have fun here.

quoted so he can read it again ;)

maybe just maybe it'll sink in. :headscratch:

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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2013, 10:54:31 AM »
If you are the type of person that needs to be told how to play a game, then by all means take the game description word for word. However if you have any creative ability what-so-ever it might be more fun to decide how you play yourself.

Traveller you seem to be justifying your gameplay choices by suggesting that you have been told to play this way by some text somewhere on the interweb. This is foolish. Just admit that you are a toolshedder because you enjoy some moderate success in this pursuit unlike pure dogfighting. Don't expect anyone to believe that the way you play the game is out of your hands because game description act 269 article 46b demands compliance.
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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2013, 11:03:36 AM »
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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2013, 11:25:11 AM »
I agree with Joachim on this one, but from I see it the problem is the level bombers having pinpoint accuracy at ridiculous altitudes. Most of the time you can see the horde coming and up to intercept them. Most of those 'Hello Kitty' mission oriented types don't have a clue what to do if it doesn't involve dive bombing anyway. It does get irritating when the horde moves around, it is akin to playing 'whack a mole'.

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Even more comical is the fact that it is always the other side that hordes. Look at this picture from a well known 'strike leader'.

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While I'm in the mood to post pictures, here is one of my favorites. It occurred when the mission as a whole decided to auger instead of let interceptors engage them.

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Same old Aces High, different day.





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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2013, 11:38:38 AM »
Gee, I was just trying to help you out. You can't expect the website to delineate every idea or purpose of the designer. That's why we have the BBS…to flesh out the barebones outlines.

Here is where I think you have your blinders on:

HT has CLEARLY stated that capturing fields is just a means to promote combat.

He has also stated that war winning is by no means any more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.


I played the game for a few years and never came into the bbs.  I visited the getting started pages and that is where Hitech creations states the purpose of the game as being a win the war, capture fields type of "capture the flag " game.   All the new players will find information there, on the getting started pages, long before doin a search for an obscure Post by HT in the BBS.   If it was important to the game, you would think that the purpose as stated in the getting started section of the web page would have been corrected.    it's been 14 years  but they never did change that statement.  Makes you wonder.  As I stated, wining the war is the only way to end the game, no amount of aircombat can achieve that without capturing land.
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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2013, 11:49:50 AM »
I played the game for a few years and never came into the bbs.  I visited the getting started pages and that is where Hitech creations states the purpose of the game as being a win the war, capture fields type of "capture the flag " game.   All the new players will find information there, on the getting started pages, long before doin a search for an obscure Post by HT in the BBS.   If it was important to the game, you would think that the purpose as stated in the getting started section of the web page would have been corrected.    it's been 14 years  but they never did change that statement.  Makes you wonder.  As I stated, wining the war is the only way to end the game, no amount of aircombat can achieve that without capturing land.


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damn dude you are quite ummm...stubborn.....

when exactly does the game "end"

once the "war" is won the map resets and the "war" continues....to provide the players with a sandbox for combat using WW2 equipment....AH does not recreate the war...its not a war game....


wait a minute.....

you said you played the game for 14 years.....

has AH even been in business 14 years :headscratch:

I am curious what is your ingame name?

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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2013, 12:06:43 PM »
How are you still here, you post up an intentional political post get it locked with rules violations and you don't get the 2 week disco???

I put up a post about an air show cancellation and failed to identify some of the political issues noted in it and poof gone. 

Because you dont make the rules and everyone in game  know i talk gibberish :)
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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2013, 12:12:39 PM »
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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2013, 12:16:11 PM »
also Traveler I am real interested in seeing exactly what you are talking about.... can you post a link to the exact "getting started/help page" that you speak of?

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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2013, 12:17:23 PM »
Maybe you didn't come to the BBS. You have now and I have shown you the quotes from the designer/owner. Now you know.

Also, I don't think it said what it says now 14 years ago in 1999. I doubt anyone has the various statements made on the splash pages from day 1 but they have changed it a few times over the years. Maybe HTC but I doubt even they have those. Anyway, my recollection does not match yours. In the early days, IIRC, it said mostly this was the premier game for air combat.

But we digress. Let's see what the Home Page does say now.

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Aces High takes the art and science of vintage WW1 and WW2 air combat and sets it in a high intensity online multiplayer environment.  Hundreds of players simultaneously battle it out against each other in massive aerial dogfights and bomber raids.  

High fidelity flight simulation is the heart of Aces High but it doesn't end there.  A war rages on the ground and at sea.  Engage enemy armor in tank combat.  Protect your fleet as a gunner or make a torpedo run in a PT boat.  Lead an assault in an amphibious vehicle.  With over 100 warbirds, vehicles, and boats available, you have access to a vast virtual arsenal.

Take part in special events such as historical scenarios where famous battles are recreated and reimagined or try your hand at air racing at tree top level against skilled competitors.

In the air, on land, and at sea, the battle rages 24 hours a day with participants from around the world.  Take our free two week trial and find out why Aces High is the online game for you.

Could you highlight for me the part where it says "the purpose of the game as being a win the war, capture fields type of "capture the flag " game."?

I don't see it there.

To clarify, this is where I take issue with you: You seem to think that the ONLY legitimate way for a player to play is to unite in purpose with his country mates with the goal of capturing bases and winning the war (which never stays won and immediately begins anew as the home pages points out, 24 hours a day).

HT himself has clearly said…you are incorrect if that's what you think.  Base Capture/War Winning is by no means any more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up (furballing).

The point of the GAME is for the players to have FUN. How they achieve that personal goal is not dictated by anyone other than themselves. It's a big sandbox.

Play the way YOU like. Like the way YOU play. Don't worry about how the other guy plays.

It's such a simple concept yet the realization eludes so many.
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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2013, 01:07:42 PM »
Maybe you didn't come to the BBS. You have now and I have shown you the quotes from the designer/owner. Now you know.

Also, I don't think it said what it says now 14 years ago in 1999. I doubt anyone has the various statements made on the splash pages from day 1 but they have changed it a few times over the years. Maybe HTC but I doubt even they have those. Anyway, my recollection does not match yours. In the early days, IIRC, it said mostly this was the premier game for air combat.

But we digress. Let's see what the Home Page does say now.

Could you highlight for me the part where it says "the purpose of the game as being a win the war, capture fields type of "capture the flag " game."?

I don't see it there.

To clarify, this is where I take issue with you: You seem to think that the ONLY legitimate way for a player to play is to unite in purpose with his country mates with the goal of capturing bases and winning the war (which never stays won and immediately begins anew as the home pages points out, 24 hours a day).

HT himself has clearly said…you are incorrect if that's what you think.  Base Capture/War Winning is by no means any more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up (furballing).

The point of the GAME is for the players to have FUN. How they achieve that personal goal is not dictated by anyone other than themselves. It's a big sandbox.

Play the way YOU like. Like the way YOU play. Don't worry about how the other guy plays.


It's such a simple concept yet the realization eludes so many.

so fricking true.  lot's of player's cartoon egos gets way above their heads.   I laugh at people who who complain about the lack of "quality fights".  if there's 2 people who want "quality fights" it it isnt too hard for them to set up a time and go for it.  that way us "inferior players" can go on to having fun without whining that "look ma that guy wont let me have fun" attitude.


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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2013, 01:14:06 PM »
Some people fly to furball, some people fly to attack and bomb bases, some people get tanks for destruction and battles, some just want to deplete furballs by killing the FHs so the other team will get pisses. My job and goal is to shoot all of them down.

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Re: Lack of fights.
« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2013, 01:14:27 PM »
How are you still here, you post up an intentional political post get it locked with rules violations and you don't get the 2 week disco???

I put up a post about an air show cancellation and failed to identify some of the political issues noted in it and poof gone. 

Its because Zack is truly awesome...... :old:
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