WW2 online corners the market?

[INDN]

Whats not historical about a P51 anf F4U fighting, seems to me a P51 or 2 got whppied in the soccer war down south a bit. Plus a Goodyear built corsair got beat by a Vought built one, all in real live action. HTC has nothing to worry about the terrain over there will be huge and the lack of planes and good fighting will bring back the true combat flight simmers. I went to Plaunet well over a year ago (10/99)and was told then it would be in open beta when Aces High went pay to play. Well except for a short 3 week period last month I have been paying ever sence it went pay to play. HT has nothing to fear about vapor ware. Also take a look at the recommended system specs, how many do you think can play that now. (quakers are all up to speed on the systems).
I personal dont wish any bad luck on Playnet I met most of the people there and DocDoom brought a book that I bought for Australia to my house. Ill take a look at it some day but Ill always be here now at Aces High.

My opinion only.

Tommy (INDN) Toon

[1776]

In order to obtain an air battle in WWIIonline you have to hope at least 1000-2000 players are online.  There is a chance that most ppl online will be grunts or on ships or under the sea in subs.  You may have to fly along time in order to find a fight.  I just don't think that ppl are patient enough to play WWIIonline.  I see them making a killing on sales of the CD and then hoping enough(and were talking thousands)support the online part.  I just don't understand how having everything covered regarding war is going to work.  Something will have to suffer in order to attract players.

They will have to have a free trial without purchase of the CD to attract subscribers.  But can they afford that??

[Pongo]

 

Originally posted by LaVa:
Easy easy..hey pongo, no need to bring your dungeons and dragons in here with ya. Take it easy kid.

Just a thought....

<lifts up his flame shield>

I quess i really should'nt be concerned with what happens.  Cuss this little troll gonna have fun.  

How would you classify a statement like this
"Of course, this is a work in progress, hard to tell sometimes with the recent lack of news, etc. I personally think that HTC is squezzing every bit of the cotton between their...? because of the progress of ww2online. "

This is not only a flame but a slimey lie. We are getting lots of info on the new release. Lots of screenshots of the new planes. You want to be treated with courtesy when you post crap like that?

I guess what you wanted was something like.
"Ya LaLa your right. HTC is so scared of WW2 online that they might never release 1.06. why bother. its all over."

No matter what the details, if WW2 online is a better GAME then HTC will have to react or pay the price. If it is not they will not. You added nothing to what is known about ww2 online that would make me take your concerns seriosly. Your slight against the honestly of HTC concenring releasing info to us still pisses me off. I have never seen a game(maybe il2) that releases info and responds to their customers in this way.
WW2 onlines core pricing stratagy involves making someone pay for 3 months worth of play up front. HTCs stratagy involves giving 1/2 a month away to try it out. The dollars for subscriptions right now are a mute point. One game exists the other does not.
If all this was to get HTC to consider their rates(probably) then dont waste your time. They probably consider them on a regular basis, I doubt the feel compelled to send the resutlts of their deliberations to lala land until they decide if a change is warranted.

[Apache]

Right now, the only market they have is a BBS for the immature. Sheesh! Have you ever read any of those posts? Other than the recognized names from the flight sim community, nothing but drival from "sirgallahadonaquesttosavetheq ueeny" types.

I hope the WWIIOnline community, oh say, grows up?

[Karnak]

LaVa,
Actually I find that it is WWIIonline that is lacking in the news department.

I will try WWIIonline and if I like it, I'll keep the account.  If I don't like it, I'll cancel the account.  Simple.

I have no plans to cancel my Aces High account regardless of whether or not I like WWIIonline.

I have always been a fan of mid to late war aircraft, e.g Spit Vs, IXs and XIVs; not Spit Is and 21s.  AH has these (except the Spit 14, please 1.07 ), WWIIonline does not and may never.

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!

Sisu
-Karnak

[CRASH]

I'll fly both, why not?  If it actually comes out (which is doubtfull) and if they can deliver on most of what they  promise (which is even more doubtfull) then they deserve our support even if they've roadkillted us for the last what, 18-24 months?  I suspect we'll never actually have to make the choice.

CRASH

[Westy]

Amen Apache!!! Say it!!    

 I just peeked ion there as I could not resist with the discussion this a.m.   Right now, one of the hot topics are by folks already complaining that there may be be too many free spirit or lone wolfe players in WW2O and they want to khow what  the CRS people will do to prevent that.

 It's beautiful man, beautiful. lol  WW2O is becoming online fly paper    
 
  -Westy




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[LJK Raubvogel]

Hehehehee...........

[LaVa]

<punt>

Ww2 is nothing but a bbs board.  

AH is great game.

The end.

LaVa

[Westy]

"The end."

 Is it?  How many hours or days will it be before someone else posts as if they were running into a Red Lobster and yelling out that Chuckey Cheese is going to bury,nay, "destroy" this restaraunt chain?

-Westy

 

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[MrSiD]

I said this on the other thread and I will say it again: WW2OL is not out yet.

Useless to picker about it.. Lets wait and see if and when it comes out and then return to the subject ok? Cool enough?

I don't understand why people compare a working game to a game which they only saw advertisements from.

It's like screaming to all the ferrari2001 model drivers that 2002 model will be much much better and that they are all morons driving it.. Then exit with the trusty smoking Lada.

[Vila]

This really belongs in OT< but what the heck...

Couple points.

WWIIOL and AH will be different games.  I suspect MANY people will try and maintain both accounts.  For $10/mo, a lot people can afford to keep WWIIOL in addition to another flight only game.

You do not have to follow orders from ANYBODY.  Rank is used to influence target values and to plan missions, but you are not obligated to take any mission you don't want, or follow any orders you're not inclined too.

Missions are optional.  Sure, there is a the hope the game will be more "mission oriented" and the only way to advance in rank is to complete missions (and for others to complete missions you assign), but if you just wanna grab a plane and furball, that option is open to you.



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Vila <Flying Pigs>
Oink! Oink! To War!

[Kieran]

Vila-

That is heartening to know.

Don't get us wrong (going to do something I normally don't do- try to speak for a group of people), many of us wish well for Cornered Rat. Many of us don't see that the program will fail, only that it will fail to give what many of the people say they are going to leave here to receive- a place that is mission-oriented only. To me that seemed an unlikely premise. Couple that with the thought you might be forced to come in and play to the whims of everyone who ranks above you and, well... it just didn't add up. It seemed an impossible interpretation, and you have addressed that clearly.

I still believe that people ought to scale back their expectations a tad though. No sim can deliver everything we hear people commenting about.

[Westy]

You do not have to follow orders...   Missions are optional...

 Exactly. You're much more diplomatic about it than I am     It is the same as we have here, or WB's or AW right now.  We have squads, mission planner, points...the whole shebang. Here some do not like furballers and some do not like the stratego-ists, same as there.  
  BUT, there is a major forum faction in WW2O, just as there is here,  who do not want to allow folks that freedom and they are up in arms about it. Imagine?  Someone, or someones, who they are unable to dictate gameplay to.  GACK!! It runs contradictoy to thier fantasy that WW2O is going to be a neo-military structured sim of WWII combat

 Of course I do not have to listen to them as I don't when I feel like it here.  But it will get boring fighting Spit I's against 109E's and Stukas after a short while.

 I have to wait 3 or 4 years to fly a P-47 ?  

  -Westy




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[anRky]

Ghosth wrote:
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Have you looked at what WWIIOL is going to have for a planeset for the first 6 months?

Spit mk1, Hurri mk1, Bristol Blenheim.
bf 109, bf110, ju-87, ju-52, he111.
Curtis Hawk H-75 (Early p40 variant)
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I gotta tell ya, that's a planeset that makes me drool!

If for no other reason, that's why I'll try WWIIOL.  I'm not too optimistic, though.  I'm interested in a flight sim, and AH is the best flight sim I've ever tried (and constantly getting better).  I don't think a company that's spending much of their time on the ground war is going to be able to make a better flight sim than AH, in addition to all the other stuff they're doing.

Then again, I sure wouldn't mind being wrong.

anRky
-Ih8ubb
'Get rid of the bucket!'